columnsets and footnotes (minimal example)

columnsets and footnotes (minimal example)

[Steffen Wolfrum]

... and here is an example that shows the problem:


\definecolumnset[example][n=2]
\setupfootnotes[n=3]

\starttext
\startcolumnset[example]
\dorecurse{10}{\input tufte\footnote{\input ward \relax}}
\stopcolumnset
\stoptext


 >Hi,
 >
 >is there a way to have both:
 >
 >a main text set in \definecolumnset[example][n=2]
 >and footnotes on bottom of page with \setupfootnotes[n=3]?
 >
 >Thank you,

Steffen

Re: columnsets and footnotes (minimal example)

[Taco Hoekwater]

Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
> ... and here is an example that shows the problem:

Oops, that doesn't look right at all.

Do you really need column sets, or is "normal" columns
mode ok as well?

   \startcolumns[n=2]
   \dorecurse{10}{\input tufte\footnote{\input ward \relax}}
   \stopcolumns

Looks about right.

Cheers, Taco

Re: columnsets and footnotes (minimal example)

[Hans Hagen]

Taco Hoekwater wrote:

>
>
> Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>
>> ... and here is an example that shows the problem:
>
>
> Oops, that doesn't look right at all.

you need to set widths

\setupfootnotes[n=1,width=\hsize]

Hans

Re: columnsets and footnotes (minimal example)

[Steffen Wolfrum]

But what can I do in order to have the main text in two columns  
(columnset)
and the smaller footnotes in three columns (as it would be perfect  
for bigger document sizes)?


Steffen



Am 09.01.2006 um 12:29 schrieb Hans Hagen:

> Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>>
>>> ... and here is an example that shows the problem:
>>
>>
>> Oops, that doesn't look right at all.
>
> you need to set widths
>
> \setupfootnotes[n=1,width=\hsize]
>
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Problem with \placefigure

[FrancoisFasoli]

The following test file gives a good result with old ConteXt
but gives an error with new ConteXt
It seems that new ConteXt does not accept [center]
What is the problem ?
Thanks

\starttext

\placefigure[center]{}{}

\stoptext

error message :

(c:/MesPGM/TeXLive/texmf-local/tex/ConteXt/base/spec-fdf.tex)
specials        : fdf loaded
)
specials        : fdf,tpd loaded
)
systems         : begin file test at line 1
floatblocks     : no block given
floatblocks     : 1 placed
! Undefined control sequence.
\OTRONEsomeherefloat ...\dorechecknextindentation

<argument> ...placesomeherefloat [\v!here ,center]
                                                  \else \dosavefloat \fi \fi
\secondoftwoarguments #1#2->#2

\dogetfloatbox ... \floatmethod \floatmethod }[#1]
                                                  \fi
\docompletefloat ...#5}{\preparednumber }}{#6}{#1}
                                                  \fi \fi \global 
\insideflo...
<argument> ...}{figure}{center}{figure}{}\nextbox
                                                  \else \docompletefloat 
{fi...
...
l.3 \placefigure[center]{}{}

Re: Problem with \placefigure

[Taco Hoekwater]

FrancoisFasoli wrote:
> The following test file gives a good result with old ConteXt
> but gives an error with new ConteXt
> It seems that new ConteXt does not accept [center]
> What is the problem ?

It works fine here. Please post the output of

	texexec --version

(i suspect something went wrong during your upgrade.)

Cheers, Taco

Re: Problem with \placefigure

[Hans Hagen]

FrancoisFasoli wrote:

> The following test file gives a good result with old ConteXt
> but gives an error with new ConteXt
> It seems that new ConteXt does not accept [center]
> What is the problem ?

 >grep dorechecknextindentation *.tex
cont-new.tex:   \dorechecknextindentation}
core-des.tex:   \dorechecknextindentation}
core-itm.tex:   \dorechecknextindentation}
core-mat.tex:   \dorechecknextindentation} % here ?
core-spa.tex:\def\dorechecknextindentation
core-ver.tex:   \dorechecknextindentation}
page-one.tex:   \dorechecknextindentation}

its' really defined in core-spa.tex, so, it looks like you use a new 
cont-new.tex with an old format; did you remake the formats?

(if you run a very old context you may need to remove the (e)fmt files 
manually first)

Hans

Re: columnsets and footnotes (minimal example)

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Am 09.01.2006 um 11:06 schrieb Taco Hoekwater:
>
>
> Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>> ... and here is an example that shows the problem:
>
> Oops, that doesn't look right at all.
>
> Do you really need column sets, or is "normal" columns
> mode ok as well?

1)

Yes, column sets would be better.


>
>   \startcolumns[n=2]
>   \dorecurse{10}{\input tufte\footnote{\input ward \relax}}
>   \stopcolumns
>
> Looks about right.
>
> Cheers, Taco

2)

When I try ...

\setupfootnotes[n=3]
\starttext
   \startcolumns[n=2]
   \dorecurse{10}{\input tufte\footnote{\input ward \relax}}
   \stopcolumns
\stoptext

at the bottom of page 1 there is a lot of white space before the  
footnote text of footnote 1-4 (the footnotemarkers 1 to 4 come up the  
next page).
So in this example it doesn't seem to be possible to keep footnote  
markers and text at the same page:

Wouldn't it be better in this case to fill page 1 also with the  
footnote text of the following footnotes?
In this way the pages would look much better.

Is there a way (penalty?) to express how *urgent* footnote markers  
and text need to be forced to the same page?
Or - in other words - to loosen the connection?

Thanks,
Steffen

Problem with \placefigure

[FrancoisFasoli]

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The following test file gives a good result with old ConteXt
but gives an error with new ConteXt
It seems that new ConteXt does not accept [center]
What is the problem ?
Thanks

\starttext

\placefigure[center]{}{}

\stoptext

error message :

(c:/MesPGM/TeXLive/texmf-local/tex/ConteXt/base/spec-fdf.tex)
specials        : fdf loaded
)
specials        : fdf,tpd loaded
)
systems         : begin file test at line 1
floatblocks     : no block given
floatblocks     : 1 placed
! Undefined control sequence.
\OTRONEsomeherefloat ...\dorechecknextindentation

<argument> ...placesomeherefloat [\v!here ,center]
                                                  \else \dosavefloat \fi \fi
\secondoftwoarguments #1#2->#2

\dogetfloatbox ... \floatmethod \floatmethod }[#1]
                                                  \fi
\docompletefloat ...#5}{\preparednumber }}{#6}{#1}
                                                  \fi \fi \global \insideflo...
<argument> ...}{figure}{center}{figure}{}\nextbox
                                                  \else \docompletefloat {fi...
...
l.3 \placefigure[center]{}{}


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Re: Problem with \placefigure

[Hans Hagen]

FrancoisFasoli wrote:

> The following test file gives a good result with old ConteXt
> but gives an error with new ConteXt
> It seems that new ConteXt does not accept [center]
> What is the problem ?
> Thanks
>  
> \starttext
>  
> \placefigure[center]{}{}
>  
> \stoptext
>  
> error message :
>  
> (c:/MesPGM/TeXLive/texmf-local/tex/ConteXt/base/spec-fdf.tex)
> specials        : fdf loaded
> )
> specials        : fdf,tpd loaded
> )
> systems         : begin file test at line 1
> floatblocks     : no block given
> floatblocks     : 1 placed
> ! Undefined control sequence.
> \OTRONEsomeherefloat ...\dorechecknextindentation

has nothing to do with center (which has never been an option anyway) 
but with the fact that you forgot to generate the format (or use teh 
wrong one) so your format clashes with the cont-new.tex file

>  
> <argument> ...placesomeherefloat [\v!here ,center]
>                                                   \else \dosavefloat 
> \fi \fi
> \secondoftwoarguments #1#2->#2
>  
> \dogetfloatbox ... \floatmethod \floatmethod }[#1]
>                                                   \fi
> \docompletefloat ...#5}{\preparednumber }}{#6}{#1}
>                                                   \fi \fi \global 
> \insideflo...
> <argument> ...}{figure}{center}{figure}{}\nextbox
>                                                   \else 
> \docompletefloat {fi...
> ...
> l.3 \placefigure[center]{}{}
>  
>  
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