chinese with utf in context

chinese with utf in context

[Lutz Haseloff]

Hi all,

with the context from 03.02.06 only the punctuation symbols
from the unicode range 30 will be printed.
The symbols from the range FF (f.i. FF0C: FULLWITH COMMA,
FF1A: FULLWITH COLON...) and from the range 20
(203B: REFERENCE MARK...) are printed
as small black squares.

If i convert the file to gbk all symbols will be printed right.

If needed i can prepare testfiles in gbk and utf encoding.


Greetings


Lutz

Re: chinese with utf in context

[Richard Gabriel]

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Hello Lutz,

I have no problems typesetting Chinese and Japanese in Unicode. I suppose there's a problem with fonts on your system...
Were all of the TFM files created properly?
Do all the files uni-htsong-ff.tfm, uni-htfs-ff.tfm, uni-hthei-ff.tfm and uni-htkai-ff.tfm exist on your system?
Are there some interesting messages in the log?

In any casy, feel free to send me any of your test file... ;-)

-Richard


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From: Lutz Haseloff [mailto:Lutz.Haseloff@blb.brandenburg.de]
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Subject: [NTG-context] chinese with utf in context

Hi all,

with the context from 03.02.06 only the punctuation symbols
from the unicode range 30 will be printed.
The symbols from the range FF (f.i. FF0C: FULLWITH COMMA,
FF1A: FULLWITH COLON...) and from the range 20
(203B: REFERENCE MARK...) are printed
as small black squares.

If i convert the file to gbk all symbols will be printed right.

If needed i can prepare testfiles in gbk and utf encoding.


Greetings


Lutz

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Re: chinese with utf in context

[Richard Gabriel]

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I'm sorry I have the same problem as Lutz with the special punctuation - I only haven't noticed this problem before because there weren't these characters in any of my testing documents... :-(
I'm going to investigate more...

-Richard


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From: Richard Gabriel [mailto:rgabriel@kerio.com]
To: Lutz.Haseloff@blb.brandenburg.de, mailing list for ConTeXt users [mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl]
Sent: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 08:16:18 +0100
Subject: Re: [NTG-context] chinese with utf in context

  Hello Lutz,

I have no problems typesetting Chinese and Japanese in Unicode. I suppose there's a problem with fonts on your system...
Were all of the TFM files created properly?
Do all the files uni-htsong-ff.tfm, uni-htfs-ff.tfm, uni-hthei-ff.tfm and uni-htkai-ff.tfm exist on your system?
Are there some interesting messages in the log?

In any casy, feel free to send me any of your test file... ;-)

-Richard


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From: Lutz Haseloff [mailto:Lutz.Haseloff@blb.brandenburg.de]
To: "Mailingliste Context (E-Mail)" [mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl]
Sent: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 07:31:29 +0100
Subject: [NTG-context] chinese with utf in context

Hi all,

with the context from 03.02.06 only the punctuation symbols
from the unicode range 30 will be printed.
The symbols from the range FF (f.i. FF0C: FULLWITH COMMA,
FF1A: FULLWITH COLON...) and from the range 20
(203B: REFERENCE MARK...) are printed
as small black squares.

If i convert the file to gbk all symbols will be printed right.

If needed i can prepare testfiles in gbk and utf encoding.


Greetings


Lutz

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Re: chinese with utf in context

[Tobias Burnus]

Hi Lutz,

Lutz Haseloff schrieb:
> The symbols from the range FF (f.i. FF0C: FULLWITH COMMA,
>   
Try the following (untested): Add the line
  \defineunicodecommand 255 {\lookaheaduchar}
to unic-cjk.tex. (Maybe you need to regenerate the format file.)

Tobias

Re: chinese with utf in context

[Lutz Haseloff]

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Tobias Burnus [mailto:burnus@gmx.de]
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. Februar 2006 10:18
> An: Lutz.Haseloff@blb.brandenburg.de; mailing list for ConTeXt users
> Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] chinese with utf in context
>
>
> Hi Lutz,
>
> Lutz Haseloff schrieb:
> > The symbols from the range FF (f.i. FF0C: FULLWITH COMMA,
> >
> Try the following (untested): Add the line
>   \defineunicodecommand 255 {\lookaheaduchar}
> to unic-cjk.tex. (Maybe you need to regenerate the format file.)
>
> Tobias
>
>

Hi Tobias,


Thank you very much for your help.

I added:

\defineunicodecommand 255 {\lookaheaduchar}
\defineunicodecommand 32 {\lookaheaduchar}
\defineunicodecommand 37 {\lookaheaduchar}
\defineunicodecommand 38 {\lookaheaduchar}

to unic-cjk.tex and all works now as expected.

Thanks again


Lutz

Re: chinese with utf in context

[Hans Hagen]

Lutz Haseloff wrote:
>   
>> -----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: Tobias Burnus [mailto:burnus@gmx.de]
>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. Februar 2006 10:18
>> An: Lutz.Haseloff@blb.brandenburg.de; mailing list for ConTeXt users
>> Betreff: Re: [NTG-context] chinese with utf in context
>>
>>
>> Hi Lutz,
>>
>> Lutz Haseloff schrieb:
>>     
>>> The symbols from the range FF (f.i. FF0C: FULLWITH COMMA,
>>>
>>>       
>> Try the following (untested): Add the line
>>   \defineunicodecommand 255 {\lookaheaduchar}
>> to unic-cjk.tex. (Maybe you need to regenerate the format file.)
>>
>> Tobias
>>
>>
>>     
>
> Hi Tobias,
>
>
> Thank you very much for your help.
>
> I added:
>
> \defineunicodecommand 255 {\lookaheaduchar}
> \defineunicodecommand 32 {\lookaheaduchar}
> \defineunicodecommand 37 {\lookaheaduchar}
> \defineunicodecommand 38 {\lookaheaduchar}
>
> to unic-cjk.tex and all works now as expected.
>   
why these numbers?

Hans


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Re: chinese with utf in context

[Tobias Burnus]

Hans Hagen schrieb:
> Lutz Haseloff wrote:
>   
>> I added:
>>
>> \defineunicodecommand 255 {\lookaheaduchar}
>> \defineunicodecommand 32 {\lookaheaduchar}
>> \defineunicodecommand 37 {\lookaheaduchar}
>> \defineunicodecommand 38 {\lookaheaduchar}
>>
>> to unic-cjk.tex and all works now as expected.  
>>     
> why these numbers?
>   

255 = U+FF are the so-called Fullwidth Latin Characters
(http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/UFF00.pdf)
they are "A" "B" "C" etc. but having the width of a Chinese character
(roughly "A ", "B ", "C "). Since they look rather ugly in non-CJK texts
and they have to match the width of the Chinese characters in the font,
they are only in CJK fonts.

32 = U+20 are general punctuation. I don't see a reason for those.
http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U2000.pdf

37 = U+25 are box drawing characters - no idea why those should be
included. http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U2500.pdf

38 = U+26 are miscanllaneous symbols - no idea why those should be
included. http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U2600.pdf

Tobias

Re: chinese with utf in context

[Lutz Haseloff]

> >>     
> > why these numbers?
> >   
> 
> 255 = U+FF are the so-called Fullwidth Latin Characters
> (http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/UFF00.pdf)
> they are "A" "B" "C" etc. but having the width of a Chinese character
> (roughly "A ", "B ", "C "). Since they look rather ugly in 
> non-CJK texts
> and they have to match the width of the Chinese characters in 
> the font,
> they are only in CJK fonts.
>
> 32 = U+20 are general punctuation. I don't see a reason for those.
> http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U2000.pdf
> 
> 37 = U+25 are box drawing characters - no idea why those should be
> included. http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U2500.pdf
> 
> 38 = U+26 are miscanllaneous symbols - no idea why those should be
> included. http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U2600.pdf

For fast input of chinese characters i use "NJSTAR Chinese Wordprocessor".
It has a menu entry "Symbols Input" -> "Punctuation".

Thats why i thought all these symbols can appear in chinese texts.

The only necessary entry is the entry for 255.



Greetings and thanks again


Lutz