Re: Movies

[Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>]

Hans van der Meer wrote:
> That's what I had and somehow could not get working again.
>   
you mean that you saw no movie?
> I therefore did some experimenting and now I have something working:
>
>
> In the above I first thought "StartMovie" etc would work but  
> "StartRendering" etc did the trick. As of the special purpose of  
> StartMovie and friends I am still in the dark.
>   
\externalfigure[whatever.mov][....,label=somelabel]

\goto{start}[StartMovie{somelabel}]

(i didn't test it; this is typically one of the areas where pdf specs 
and viewers evolve over time; what works in version 3 viewers may fail 
in version 5; normally i adapt that kind of stuff when i run into it / 
need it (with the danger of breaking oder stuff); one problem is that 
there is a relationship (now) betwene the page where the resource is and 
where it is activated [it's that kind of dependencies that has shown 
up]; the same for sounds: resources need to be on the same page as where 
they are clled (which over time made some examples fail when viewers 
changed their expectations).

> \definerenderingwindow
>     [movie]
>     [width=1.33\makeupheight,height= 
> \makeupheight,strut=no,offset=0pt,frame=off,
>      background=color,backgroundcolor=BackgroundColor,
>      closepageaction=StopCurrentRendering]
>
> I had to remove the openpageaction from the example in the context  
> fle and then it stopped putting the movie on each and every page once  
> it had been opened.
>   
the rendering mechanism is using the pdf 1.5/6 features i.e. separation 
between resource and rendering view (buggy in acrobat 6, but may be 
better by now) ; there is some example code in x-res-50 etc

> Finally typesetting the movie with:
>
> \useexternalrendering[purple][video/quicktime][purpleshort.mov]
> \defineoverlay
> 	[theimage]
> 	[{\externalfigure[themovie][width=\overlaywidth,height= 
> \overlayheight,type=jpg]}]
> starttext
> \hfill\framed[offset=0pt,strut=no,background={foreground,theimage}]
> 	{\placerenderingwindow[movie][themovie]}\hfill\null
>
> As you can seen I placed the movie in a framed. This because I wanted  
> the still image showing over it (you mentioned a "preview=yes" I will  
> later experiment with it. I guess it also will work here?
>   
not sure, but overlays are ok (since the undocumented behaviour of 
viewers is that the annots end up on top when activated, they have their 
own rendering layer (and as a side effect cannot be made invisible in 
pdf layers; a typical example of pdf feature creap without forseeing 
implicationswhich then needs to be repaired in later pdf specs/viewers)

> The PROBLEM I encountered was that I thought to change the  
> renderingwindow's background with a local call to
> 	\setuprenderingwindow[movie][parameters leading to the overlay as in  
> framed]
> but to no avail.
> Maybe I did something wrong here? Could it be with the naming and/or  
> the number of parameters in the setup?
>   
dunno, if you send me a zip with all resources and a small test file i 
can have a look
> Anyway, the stuff seems to work. From your answer I guess a sort of  
> manual is still far way. Pity.
>   
well, it should go in the widgets manual, but only when the pdf specs is 
stable for this; there is some example code in the x-res files (media 
libraires and so)
> If you can spare some further hints, if necessary, I will be grateful  
> as always.
>
>   
Hans
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