Fonts problems

Fonts problems

[Michal Kvasnička]

Good afternoon.

I apologize that I bother you once more, but I'm getting desperate. :-( 
I have still problem with fonts in ConTeXt---perhaps I'm not able to 
install it well. I use ConTeXt  ver: 2006.02.03 21:00, pdfeTeX, Version 
3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4), tetex-3.0-13 under SuSE Linux 9.2 (the 
tetex is grabbed from Suse 9.3). I tried to copy all files where I 
thought they should have been, texhashed, and build formats. Now, some 
things work, but not all of them, and not in an expected way.

Problem 1: I expect that a following file should typeset "tufte" in 
Latin Modern font.
    \setupoutput[pdf]
    \starttext
    \input tufte
    \stoptext
ConTeXt loads some map files (/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map
/dvips/context/original-empty.map}{/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/ori
ginal-base.map}{/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/ec-public-lm.map}{/usr
/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/ec-base.map}{/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dv
ips/context/8r-base.map}{/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/t5-base.map}{
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-ams-base.map}{/usr/share/tex
mf/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-ams-euler.map}{/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/d
vips/context/original-public-lm.map}), but it clearly isn't able to find 
the right one, since it writes this error message:
    kpathsea: Running mktexpk --mfmode / --bdpi 72 --mag 1+0/72 --dpi 72 
ec-lmr12
    mktexpk: don't know how to create bitmap font for ec-lmr12.
    kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log.
     )
    Warning: pdfetex (file ec-lmr12): Font ec-lmr12 at 72 not found
I can correct it when I add one more file:
    \loadmapfile[psclean.map]
But I was told that I should omit this line. What's the problem? How can 
I correct it?


Problem 2: Let's suppose I add into the previous file this 
    B\"oh-Bawerk
then the letter \"o is missing (a white space is on its place). Isn't 
there a bug in the Latin modern fonts/virtual fonts/metrics, or 
whatever? Moreover, gv views the hyphen over the "h" and "B" letters. 
(Acrobat Reader 7 view it all right.) How is that possible.


Problem 3: Some fonts are not used properly. The following file
    \setupoutput[pdf]
    \loadmapfile[psclean.map]
    \usetypescript[ppl] % working pos
    \switchtobodyfont[ppl,10pt]
    \starttext
    \input tufte\par
    \stoptext
works well. It works even if I change "pos" to "ppl", "ptm", "phv", or 
"tim". It works even when changed to "pcr", but the text is ragged. When 
changed to "con", "bookman", or "iwona", it does nothing---the text is 
typeset in Latin Modern. When changed to "ant", I get this error message:
    kpathsea: Running mktextfm sy-anttrz
    /usr/share/texmf/web2c/mktexnam: Could not map typeface abbreviation 
y- for sy-anttrz.
    /usr/share/texmf/web2c/mktexnam: Need to update 
/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/fontname/special.map?
    mktextfm: Running mf-nowin -progname=mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1; 
nonstopmode; input sy-anttrz
    This is METAFONT, Version 2.71828 (Web2C 7.5.4)
    kpathsea: Running mktexmf sy-anttrz
    ! I can't find file `sy-anttrz'.
I think I have installed all these fonts (instead of Adobe fonts I have 
URW ones). What's wrong.



Problem 4: From what afm files were the tfm metrics for Times, 
Helvetica, and Palatino generated? Accents are positioned in a strange 
way and after a tquoteright is a strange hole (bad kerning).  A long 
time ago I've generated myself tfm metrics from afm files of URW fonts, 
and they look much better. Were these afm files used, or were used some 
afm metrics of fonts that do not include accented letter, i.e. are those 
letters just TeX-based composites?



Problem 5: How can I switch back to CS fonts? (Well, I know I bother you 
all, but I still do not like Latin Modern fonts.) :-( I thought that 
something like this could work, but it doesn't:
    \setupoutput[pdf]
    \loadmapfile[psclean.map]
    \loadmapfile[/usr/share/texmf/dvips/context/original-public-csr.map]
    \starttypescript [serif] [computer-modern] [il2]
      \definefontsynonym [cmb10]    [csb10]    [encoding=il2]
      \definefontsynonym [cmbsy10]  [csbsy10]  [encoding=il2]
       ...
    \stoptypescript
    \usetypescript[computer-modern][il2]
    \switchtobodyfont[computer-modern,10pt]
    \starttext
    \input tufte
    \stoptext
How can I do it?

I apologize for so many questions. Many thanks for your help.
Your thankful
Michal Kvasnicka

Re: Fonts problems

[Vit Zyka]

Michal Kvasnička wrote:
> Good afternoon.
> 
> I apologize that I bother you once more, but I'm getting desperate. :-( 
> I have still problem with fonts in ConTeXt---perhaps I'm not able to 
> install it well. I use ConTeXt  ver: 2006.02.03 21:00, pdfeTeX, Version 
> 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4), tetex-3.0-13 under SuSE Linux 9.2 (the 
> tetex is grabbed from Suse 9.3). I tried to copy all files where I 
> thought they should have been, texhashed, and build formats. Now, some 
> things work, but not all of them, and not in an expected way.
> 
> Problem 1: I expect that a following file should typeset "tufte" in 
> Latin Modern font.
>     \setupoutput[pdf]
>     \starttext
>     \input tufte
>     \stoptext
> ConTeXt loads some map files (/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map
> /dvips/context/original-empty.map}{/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/ori
> ginal-base.map}{/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/ec-public-lm.map}{/usr
> /share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/ec-base.map}{/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dv
> ips/context/8r-base.map}{/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/context/t5-base.map}{
> /usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-ams-base.map}{/usr/share/tex
> mf/fonts/map/dvips/context/original-ams-euler.map}{/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/d
> vips/context/original-public-lm.map}), but it clearly isn't able to find 
> the right one, since it writes this error message:
>     kpathsea: Running mktexpk --mfmode / --bdpi 72 --mag 1+0/72 --dpi 72 
> ec-lmr12
>     mktexpk: don't know how to create bitmap font for ec-lmr12.

Hello,

it seems like old lm package (wrong map files). Try to update from
http://www.tug.org/cgi-bin/dirarchive/tex-archive/fonts/lm/fonts.zip

Vit Zyka

>     kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log.
>      )
>     Warning: pdfetex (file ec-lmr12): Font ec-lmr12 at 72 not found
> I can correct it when I add one more file:
>     \loadmapfile[psclean.map]
> But I was told that I should omit this line. What's the problem? How can 
> I correct it?
> 
> 
> Problem 2: Let's suppose I add into the previous file this 
>     B\"oh-Bawerk
> then the letter \"o is missing (a white space is on its place). Isn't 
> there a bug in the Latin modern fonts/virtual fonts/metrics, or 
> whatever? Moreover, gv views the hyphen over the "h" and "B" letters. 
> (Acrobat Reader 7 view it all right.) How is that possible.
> 
> 
> Problem 3: Some fonts are not used properly. The following file
>     \setupoutput[pdf]
>     \loadmapfile[psclean.map]
>     \usetypescript[ppl] % working pos
>     \switchtobodyfont[ppl,10pt]
>     \starttext
>     \input tufte\par
>     \stoptext
> works well. It works even if I change "pos" to "ppl", "ptm", "phv", or 
> "tim". It works even when changed to "pcr", but the text is ragged. When 
> changed to "con", "bookman", or "iwona", it does nothing---the text is 
> typeset in Latin Modern. When changed to "ant", I get this error message:
>     kpathsea: Running mktextfm sy-anttrz
>     /usr/share/texmf/web2c/mktexnam: Could not map typeface abbreviation 
> y- for sy-anttrz.
>     /usr/share/texmf/web2c/mktexnam: Need to update 
> /usr/share/texmf/fonts/map/fontname/special.map?
>     mktextfm: Running mf-nowin -progname=mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1; 
> nonstopmode; input sy-anttrz
>     This is METAFONT, Version 2.71828 (Web2C 7.5.4)
>     kpathsea: Running mktexmf sy-anttrz
>     ! I can't find file `sy-anttrz'.
> I think I have installed all these fonts (instead of Adobe fonts I have 
> URW ones). What's wrong.
> 
> 
> 
> Problem 4: From what afm files were the tfm metrics for Times, 
> Helvetica, and Palatino generated? Accents are positioned in a strange 
> way and after a tquoteright is a strange hole (bad kerning).  A long 
> time ago I've generated myself tfm metrics from afm files of URW fonts, 
> and they look much better. Were these afm files used, or were used some 
> afm metrics of fonts that do not include accented letter, i.e. are those 
> letters just TeX-based composites?
> 
> 
> 
> Problem 5: How can I switch back to CS fonts? (Well, I know I bother you 
> all, but I still do not like Latin Modern fonts.) :-( I thought that 
> something like this could work, but it doesn't:
>     \setupoutput[pdf]
>     \loadmapfile[psclean.map]
>     \loadmapfile[/usr/share/texmf/dvips/context/original-public-csr.map]
>     \starttypescript [serif] [computer-modern] [il2]
>       \definefontsynonym [cmb10]    [csb10]    [encoding=il2]
>       \definefontsynonym [cmbsy10]  [csbsy10]  [encoding=il2]
>        ...
>     \stoptypescript
>     \usetypescript[computer-modern][il2]
>     \switchtobodyfont[computer-modern,10pt]
>     \starttext
>     \input tufte
>     \stoptext
> How can I do it?
> 
> I apologize for so many questions. Many thanks for your help.
> Your thankful
> Michal Kvasnicka
> 
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Re: Fonts problems

[Michal Kvasnička]

Vit Zyka wrote:

>> > Problem 1: I expect that a following file should typeset "tufte" in > Latin Modern font.>     \setupoutput[pdf]>     \starttext>     \input tufte>     \stoptext> ConTeXt loads some map files (/usr/share/texmf/fonts/map
>

>> Hello,
>it seems like old lm package (wrong map files). Try to update fromhttp://www.tug.org/cgi-bin/dirarchive/tex-archive/fonts/lm/fonts.zip
>Vit Zyka
>  
>
Wow, it works. Many thanks. Well, I had to delete also old map files. 
But now it works very well. It works even with pos-typescript.

Have you any hint for the rest of my problmes?

Many thanks once more.
M.K.

Re: Fonts problems

[Mojca Miklavec]

On 2/15/06, Michal Kvasnička wrote:
> Wow, it works. Many thanks. Well, I had to delete also old map files.
> But now it works very well. It works even with pos-typescript.
>
> Have you any hint for the rest of my problmes?

Problem Nr. 3:
Update iwona, kurier & antykwa torunska too (names were changed recently).

http://www.janusz.nowacki.strefa.pl/

Mojca

Re: Fonts problems

[Michal Kvasnička]

Mojca Miklavec wrote:

>On 2/15/06, Michal Kvasnička wrote:
>  
>
>>Wow, it works. Many thanks. Well, I had to delete also old map files.
>>But now it works very well. It works even with pos-typescript.
>>
>>Have you any hint for the rest of my problmes?
>>    
>>
>
>Problem Nr. 3:
>Update iwona, kurier & antykwa torunska too (names were changed recently).
>
>http://www.janusz.nowacki.strefa.pl/
>
>Mojca
>  
>
Oh my goodness! That works too. I wonder if I like changes (because 
sometimes they are improvements), or I hate them because of these problems.

Many thanks to you.
M.K.

Re: Fonts problems

[Hans Hagen]

� wrote:
> Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>
>   
>> On 2/15/06, Michal Kvasni�ka wrote:
>>  
>>
>>     
>>> Wow, it works. Many thanks. Well, I had to delete also old map files.
>>> But now it works very well. It works even with pos-typescript.
>>>
>>> Have you any hint for the rest of my problmes?
>>>    
>>>
>>>       
>> Problem Nr. 3:
>> Update iwona, kurier & antykwa torunska too (names were changed recently).
>>
>> http://www.janusz.nowacki.strefa.pl/
>>
>> Mojca
>>  
>>
>>     
> Oh my goodness! That works too. I wonder if I like changes (because 
> sometimes they are improvements), or I hate them because of these problems.
>   
i always try to incorporate such new things (fonts) into context as soon as possible; the drawback of that is that when a beta font becomes updates, one also may need to update context

in the near future more font updates will take place; some of you may know already that there is a new font project started in a few months where the core of the free fonts in the tex distribuitions (times, paladio, etc) will be updated: (1) merging the regular, quasi and vn variants, (2) provide open type alternatives, (3) maybe add math support to all of them, (4) make them lm glyph compatible [i.e. adding shapes] and maybe more; this project is being substantially funded by CSTug, Dante, Gust, NTG and TugIndia, with TUG and maybe other groups stepping in later. 

since i'm one of the initiators of this project, you may expect context to be an early adopter; you are warned 

Hans 

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Re: Fonts problems

[Michal Kvasnička]

Good morning.

Of course I'm glad there are more and more free fonts in the ConTeXt. 
The project you spead about sounds great. But may I ask you for a favor? 
Would it be possible to add one more zip file to the downloading page of 
http://www.pragma-ade.com/---the zip file including all free fonts in 
the versions that are currently supported by the ConTeXt? I do not 
update my system very often, and that's why I often get into problems 
like this when I try to update ConTeXt. If it didn't spend a great deal 
of your time, it would help me (and perhaps more people) a lot. Thank 
you very much.

Yours thankful
M.K.

>.>   i always try to incorporate such new things (fonts) into context as soon as possible; the drawback of that is that when a beta font becomes updates, one also may need to update context
>in the near future more font updates will take place; some of you may know already that there is a new font project started in a few months where the core of the free fonts in the tex distribuitions (times, paladio, etc) will be updated: (1) merging the regular, quasi and vn variants, (2) provide open type alternatives, (3) maybe add math support to all of them, (4) make them lm glyph compatible [i.e. adding shapes] and maybe more; this project is being substantially funded by CSTug, Dante, Gust, NTG and TugIndia, with TUG and maybe other groups stepping in later. 
>since i'm one of the initiators of this project, you may expect context to be an early adopter; you are warned 
>Hans 
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