Re: Uppercase headings

Re: Uppercase headings

[Ville Voipio]

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>  \setuphead[title]
>    [deeptextcommand=\WORD]
>
> Does that work?

It does, it does!!!!

You just saved my night. Can I send you a pint of beer somewhere?

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I tried finding more information about deeptextcommand, but all I found was a brief comment about deep hooks in the release notes (19-Jan-06). I can write something about this into Wiki, but that requires me to understand a bit more. Where do I start looking for?

Thanks again,

- Ville

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Re: Uppercase headings

[Hans Hagen]

Ville Voipio wrote:
>>  \setuphead[title]
>>    [deeptextcommand=\WORD]
>>
>> Does that work?
>>     
>
> It does, it does!!!!
>
> You just saved my night. Can I send you a pint of beer somewhere?
>
> ---
>
> I tried finding more information about deeptextcommand, but all I found was a brief comment about deep hooks in the release notes (19-Jan-06). I can write something about this into Wiki, but that requires me to understand a bit more. Where do I start looking for?
>   
the source -) 

the problem with the non-deep command is that it gets more than just text fed ... like the fontswitch, color, etc; if that info is subjected to uppercasing, strange side effects may appear; the deep command acts upon the text itself 

please, wikify this

Hans 


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Re: Uppercase headings

[Hans Hagen]

Ville Voipio wrote:
>>  \setuphead[title]
>>    [deeptextcommand=\WORD]
>>
>> Does that work?
>>     
>
> It does, it does!!!!
>
> You just saved my night. Can I send you a pint of beer somewhere?
>
> ---
>
> I tried finding more information about deeptextcommand, but all I found was a brief comment about deep hooks in the release notes (19-Jan-06). I can write something about this into Wiki, but that requires me to understand a bit more. Where do I start looking for?
>   

Don't do this if you don't want to get a nightmare ...

\def\ShowTwoArguments#1#2%
  {\showargument{#1}%
   \showargument{#2}}

\setuphead[chapter][command=\ShowTwoArguments]

\chapter{test}


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Re: Uppercase headings

[Ville Voipio]

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> it's nearly impossible to get this working for all features 
> (keep in mind that tex has no real feature to map font chars 
> to other font chars)  esp those with special chars. 

I know this is not a trivial question due to the number
of encodings and languages. However, what makes me a bit
puzzled is that the following works fine:

  \title{\WORD{Text with åäö etc.} }

So, the mechanism behind \WORD works well. It is just that
I cannot figure out how to use it. I emphasize that it used
to work fine even in the \setuphead definition, but that
was with an old version (April '05).

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> works ok here (can you try the latest version - beta?) 

The version I am trying to use is rather a fresh one:

 TeXExec 5.4.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005

               texexec : TeXExec 5.4.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005
               texutil : TeXUtil 9.0.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2006
                   tex : unknown
               context : ver: 2006.03.25 13:21
               cont-en : unknown
               cont-nl : unknown

Has there been any change after that? If not, I could brew up a
minimal example to illustrate the problem.

BR,

- Ville


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Uppercase headings

[Ville Voipio]

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I started to edit an old document with capitalized headings. Making the headings was rather difficult (as can be seen on this list about a year ago), and now it seems to have broken again.

I have:

\setuphead[title]
  [page=yes,
  before={\strut\blank[5*big]},
  after={\textrule\blank},
  align=middle,
  style=\tfb,
  textcommand=\WORD
  ]

This worked fine in the past. Not anymore:

8<---


! You can't use `\relax' after \the.
<recently read> \@sl@\@@pnstate 
                                
\pushmacro ...ame \@sl@ \@@pushedmacro \endcsname 
                                                  \@@pushedmacro \endcsname #1
\makesectionformat ...macro \@@shortsectionnumber 
                                                  \let \@@shortsectionnumber...

\rawreference ...veryreference \makesectionformat 
                                                  \writereference {#2} {\sec...
<argument> ...\finalsectionnumber }{\asciititle }}
                                                  }\fi \executeifdefi! Missing \endcsname inserted.
<to be read again> 
                   \let 
\@@shortsectionnumber ...@EA \ifx \csname \??se #1
                                                  \c!ownnumber \endcsname \r...

\makesectionformat ... \@@shortsectionnumber \let 
                                                  \@@shortsectionnumber \@@s...

\rawreference ...veryreference \makesectionformat 
                                                  \writereference {#2} {\sec...
<argument> ...\finalsectionnumber }{\asciititle }}
                                                  }\fi \executeifdefined {\?...

\douppercase ...rstoftwoarguments \edef \ascii {#1
                                                  }\edef \ascii {\expandafte...
...

8<---

Using the trivial solution (\uppercase) does not work because with a non-il1 regime it does not handle the accented characters (A umlat, O umlaut) correctly. I use UTF, as it contains all the characters I need.

So, what has changed in the \WORD? It works \WORD{fine} within text but not in the headings.

TIA,

- Ville

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Re: Uppercase headings

[Hans Hagen]

Ville Voipio wrote:
>
> I started to edit an old document with capitalized headings. Making 
> the headings was rather difficult (as can be seen on this list about a 
> year ago), and now it seems to have broken again.
>
> I have:
>
> \setuphead[title]
>   [page=yes,
>   before={\strut\blank[5*big]},
>   after={\textrule\blank},
>   align=middle,
>   style=\tfb,
>   textcommand=\WORD
>   ]
>
> This worked fine in the past. Not anymore:
>
> 8<---
>
>
> ! You can't use `\relax' after \the.
> <recently read> \@sl@\@@pnstate
>                                
> \pushmacro ...ame \@sl@ \@@pushedmacro \endcsname
>                                                   \@@pushedmacro 
> \endcsname #1
> \makesectionformat ...macro \@@shortsectionnumber
>                                                   \let 
> \@@shortsectionnumber...
>
> \rawreference ...veryreference \makesectionformat
>                                                   \writereference {#2} 
> {\sec...
> <argument> ...\finalsectionnumber }{\asciititle }}
>                                                   }\fi \executeifdefi! 
> Missing \endcsname inserted.
> <to be read again>
>                    \let
> \@@shortsectionnumber ...@EA \ifx \csname \??se #1
>                                                   \c!ownnumber 
> \endcsname \r...
>
> \makesectionformat ... \@@shortsectionnumber \let
>                                                   
> \@@shortsectionnumber \@@s...
>
> \rawreference ...veryreference \makesectionformat
>                                                   \writereference {#2} 
> {\sec...
> <argument> ...\finalsectionnumber }{\asciititle }}
>                                                   }\fi 
> \executeifdefined {\?...
>
> \douppercase ...rstoftwoarguments \edef \ascii {#1
>                                                   }\edef \ascii 
> {\expandafte...
> ...
>
> 8<---
>
> Using the trivial solution (\uppercase) does not work because with a 
> non-il1 regime it does not handle the accented characters (A umlat, O 
> umlaut) correctly. I use UTF, as it contains all the characters I need.
>
> So, what has changed in the \WORD? It works \WORD{fine} within text 
> but not in the headings.
>
> TIA,
>
> - Ville
>
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Re: Uppercase headings

[Hans Hagen]

Ville Voipio wrote:
>
> I started to edit an old document with capitalized headings. Making 
> the headings was rather difficult (as can be seen on this list about a 
> year ago), and now it seems to have broken again.
>
> I have:
>
> \setuphead[title]
>   [page=yes,
>   before={\strut\blank[5*big]},
>   after={\textrule\blank},
>   align=middle,
>   style=\tfb,
>   textcommand=\WORD
>   ]
>
it's nearly impossible to get this working for all features (keep in mind that tex has no real feature to map font chars to other font chars)  esp those with special chars. 

the best solution is to use a caps font (or to create a pseudo caps font ) 

btw, 

\starttext
  \title{test \eacute \beta}
\stoptext

works ok here (can you try the latest version - beta?) 

Hans 

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Re: Uppercase headings

[Taco Hoekwater]

Ville Voipio wrote:
> 
> I started to edit an old document with capitalized headings. Making the 
> headings was rather difficult (as can be seen on this list about a year 
> ago), and now it seems to have broken again.
> 
> I have:
> 
> \setuphead[title]
>   [page=yes,
>   before={\strut\blank[5*big]},
>   after={\textrule\blank},
>   align=middle,
>   style=\tfb,
>   textcommand=\WORD
>   ]
> 
> This worked fine in the past. Not anymore:

Something like this is why there is a new syntax:

  \setuphead[title]
    [deeptextcommand=\WORD]

Does that work?

Taco