From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/26703 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Renaud AUBIN Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: References formatting (m-bib related problems) Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 00:48:18 +0200 Message-ID: <442DB1B2.6050102@nibua-r.org> References: <442D8DDF.7030001@nibua-r.org> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0681092650==" X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1143845548 30700 80.91.229.2 (31 Mar 2006 22:52:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 22:52:28 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sat Apr 01 00:52:27 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FPSTe-0004pt-02 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Apr 2006 00:52:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94A051279E; Sat, 1 Apr 2006 00:52:21 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 15340-03; Sat, 1 Apr 2006 00:52:17 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86BEA12792; Sat, 1 Apr 2006 00:52:17 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A78CE12792 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2006 00:52:15 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 15435-01 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2006 00:52:14 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from 26.mail-out.ovh.net (26.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.42.179]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id D98651278D for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2006 00:47:25 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: (qmail 12832 invoked by uid 503); 31 Mar 2006 22:47:37 -0000 Original-Received: (QMFILT: 1.0); 31 Mar 2006 22:47:37 -0000 Original-Received: from b7.ovh.net (HELO mail154.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.57) by 26.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 31 Mar 2006 22:47:37 -0000 Original-Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 31 Mar 2006 22:46:56 -0000 Original-Received: from mail154.ha.ovh.net (10.0.50.154) by mail154.ha.ovh.net with SMTP; 31 Mar 2006 22:46:55 -0000 Original-Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-pre) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 31 Mar 2006 22:46:55 -0000 Original-Received: from d213-103-110-141.cust.tele2.fr (HELO ?192.168.78.10?) (aubin@nibua-r.org@213.103.110.141) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 31 Mar 2006 22:46:55 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051017) X-Accept-Language: fr, en Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: <442D8DDF.7030001@nibua-r.org> X-Ovh-Remote: 213.103.110.141 (d213-103-110-141.cust.tele2.fr) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: fait|type 1&3|0.5|H 0.5 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:26703 Archived-At: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0681092650== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020305040501080604050108" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020305040501080604050108 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's confirmed: same problems with t-bib-2006.03.13.zip ( Please Taco, is it possible to remove leftover "year needed" messages ?= ) Renaud AUBIN a =E9crit : >Hi all, > > >At first, I use m-bib-beta-20060208.zip. Up to now, I used: > >\setupbibtex[database=3Dbiblio,sort=3Dauthor] >\setuppublications[alternative=3Dnum-fr,sorttype=3Dbbl,numbering=3Dyes] > >%% In order to format Names with small capitals: >\def\mynormalauthor#1#2#3#4#5% >{\bibdoif{#1}{#1\bibalternative{firstnamesep}}% >\bibdoif{#2}{#2\bibalternative{vonsep}}% >\bgroup\sc#3\egroup\bibalternative{surnamesep}\unskip >\bibdoif{#5}{#5\unskip}} > >\setuppublicationlist > [artauthor=3D\mynormalauthor, > editor=3D\mynormalauthor, > author=3D\mynormalauthor] > > >Everything works fine, but now I would use apa-fr and I have some >problems. After discussing this topic with Taco on #context, I have >tried the following code: >% \cite[name00] should return [Name, 2000] >\unprotect\def\mybibcommand#1{\expanded{\cite[\@@pbk]}~~} \protect >\setupbibtex[database=3Dbiblio,sort=3Dauthor] >\setuppublications[alternative=3Dapa,sorttype=3Dbbl,numbercommand=3D\myb= ibcommand, >numbering=3Dyes,autohang=3Dyes] > >\setupcite[authoryears][left=3D{[},right=3D{]}] > >So, just forget to format the authors with normalauthor & small >capitals.... It's ok for the cite command but labels of the references >listing is wrong (each label are the same and correspond in fact to the >last entry ! )... Any idea ??? > >Add to this the fact that I don't like the formatting of the year -> >(1999). Since I like the formatting applied with num-fr, how to >reproduce it with apa-fr. >(I have tested apa and apa-fr and it gives same results in either) > >Cheers, > >Renaud > > > > > > =20 > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >ntg-context mailing list >ntg-context@ntg.nl >http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > =20 > --------------020305040501080604050108 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's confirmed: same problems with t-bib-2006.03.13.zip

( Please Taco, is it possible to remove leftover "year needed" messages ? )

Renaud AUBIN a écrit : 
Hi all,


At first, I use m-bib-beta-20060208.zip. Up to now, I used:

\setupbibtex[database=biblio,sort=author]
\setuppublications[alternative=num-fr,sorttype=bbl,numbering=yes]

%% In order to format Names with small capitals:
\def\mynormalauthor#1#2#3#4#5%
{\bibdoif{#1}{#1\bibalternative{firstnamesep}}%
\bibdoif{#2}{#2\bibalternative{vonsep}}%
\bgroup\sc#3\egroup\bibalternative{surnamesep}\unskip
\bibdoif{#5}{#5\unskip}}

\setuppublicationlist
  [artauthor=\mynormalauthor,
   editor=\mynormalauthor,
   author=\mynormalauthor]


Everything works fine, but now I would use apa-fr and I have some
problems. After discussing this topic with Taco on #context, I have
tried the following code:
% \cite[name00] should return [Name, 2000]
\unprotect\def\mybibcommand#1{\expanded{\cite[\@@pbk]}~~} \protect
\setupbibtex[database=biblio,sort=author]
\setuppublications[alternative=apa,sorttype=bbl,numbercommand=\mybibcommand,
numbering=yes,autohang=yes]

\setupcite[authoryears][left={[},right={]}]

So, just forget to format the authors with normalauthor & small
capitals.... It's ok for the cite command but labels of the references
listing is wrong (each label are the same and correspond in fact to the
last entry ! )... Any idea ???

Add to this the fact that I don't like the formatting of the year ->
(1999). Since I like the formatting applied with num-fr, how to
reproduce it with apa-fr.
(I have tested apa and apa-fr and it gives same results in either)

Cheers,

Renaud





  

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