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From: r.ermers@hccnet.nl
Subject: Re: i18n in BibTeX
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 08:39:41 +0200 (MEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44822.62.251.0.62.1127716781.squirrel@webmail.hccnet.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43371EB7.80002@gmail.com>

Hello Adam,

Why not save the document as cont.au-de.bst and use it when you write
German. When you need the English version, you simply switch back to
cont.au.bst?

The adaptations in the bst file are not many, unless you want to change
the commas and periods as well.

The only serious problem I encounter now is the language of the notes that
are printed in the bibliography.

Regards,

Robert



Op Ma, 26 september, 2005 12:03 am schreef Mojca Miklavec:
> Adam Duck wrote:
>
>> So, I've stumbled across a problem: if you have only two authors in a
>> BibTeX entry, cont-au.bst sets "AuthorA and AuthorB" which is -- IMHO
>> -- unaccaptable for a german document.  I had to manually edit
>> cont-au.bst and change a line in
> /.../
>
>> from "and" to "und".  Is there a cleaner way?  If I typeset an english
>> document now, I'll get an "und"...
>
> Take a look at bibl-apa.tex and bibl-aps.tex.
>
>
> Depending on what kind of citing you use, you may say something like
> \setupcite[authoryear][lastpubsep={ und }]
> and for all the other citing modes the same.
>
> However, there are many hard coded English words present in the style
> (in contrast to the rest of ConTeXt this doesn't support automatic
> language specific behaviour (yet?)). Since there are other specifics for
> German bibliography layout as well, it may even be a good idea to make
> your own style if this one is not OK for you. It's much easier (and
> extremely user-friendly) to modify the layout in Taco's module than
> changing the .bst files.
>
>
> Since there is already a discussion on this topic:
> Someone on "TeX Stammtisch München" asked if it would be possible to use
> an additional field language=something within BibTeX entries, which would
> typeset the authors, titles, ... and everything else in the language
> specified, so that hyphenation are OK and possibly some other stuff as
> well. They stated it approximately like that: "if someone is writing a
> document in Arabic script and wants to cite a German book, "publisher",
> "thesis", "volume", ... must remain in Arabic, but the
> language=de/german field should turn all the German language specifics on
> (writing direction, fonts, hyphenation, ...)".
>
>
> He mentioned a flavour of BibTeX modification that does that, but I
> don't remember which one. The main problem is that most BibTeX packages are
> not aware of any language other than English and those that are, don't
> offer as wide range of possibilities as the others (shortly: you can't
> combine a fancy BibTeX style and language awareness in LaTeX).
>
>
> To make this work \insertWhatevers (and much more) should probably be
> redefined to obey language specific behaviour for both the global document
> language and the language specified in the bib Entry if any, but I'm
> afraid that there are also some other tricky details behind.
>
>
> Mojca
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-09-26  6:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-25 21:02 Adam Duck
2005-09-25 22:03 ` Mojca Miklavec
2005-09-25 23:45   ` Adam Duck
2005-09-26  6:03     ` Mojca Miklavec
2005-09-26  7:01     ` Taco Hoekwater
2005-09-26  6:39   ` r.ermers [this message]
2005-09-26 20:35     ` Adam Duck
2005-09-26 11:17   ` Taco Hoekwater

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