From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/29039 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: ConTeXt + asymptote Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 20:05:04 +0200 Message-ID: <44A41650.6050009@wxs.nl> References: <20060629134039.12300.qmail@wizard.math.ualberta.ca> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1151604343 3009 80.91.229.2 (29 Jun 2006 18:05:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 18:05:43 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Jun 29 20:05:41 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Fw0tC-00050d-2J for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 20:05:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D6C21276F; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 20:05:18 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 05092-05; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 20:05:11 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33BBA12847; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 20:05:11 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA4912847 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 20:05:09 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 04902-02 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 20:05:07 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail.pragma-ade.net (dsl-083-247-100-017.solcon.nl [83.247.100.17]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 821B91276F for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 20:05:07 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [10.100.1.102] (unverified [10.100.1.102]) by controller-1 (SurgeMail 3.5b3) with ESMTP id 24399 for ; Thu, 29 Jun 2006 22:05:06 +0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.4 (Windows/20060516) Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: <20060629134039.12300.qmail@wizard.math.ualberta.ca> X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com r=-274017400 X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-1 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:29039 Archived-At: John Bowman wrote: > In regard to adding support for ConTeXt or plain TeX to Asymptote, it > should be no problem to do this, but perhaps someone on this list can help > provide some preliminary information, particularly regarding item 1 below > on how best to rotate text at an arbitrary angle. Also, since I am not sure > what the precise planned use of a plain tex/ConTeXt engine here is, it isn't > clear to me whether the miniltx solution below would be an acceptable solution. > i cannot answer for other users but i guess that they want a more integrated approach, i.e. include a code in the doc source, write style info at runtime, etc latex and context differ too much from what users wrote to this list, i understood that much tex related stuff in asymptote is hard coded, so it's probably enough when all the strings (in the c source) that now contain latex code can be configured; there is no need for you to look into context, when things can be configured, the users will do that for you > Perhaps someone can also explain why so many context users are interested in > this feature? Why exactly can't they let Asymptote do its typesetting with > latex behind the scenes and then import the resulting ps or pdf files in > context? Is the issue just that latex might not be installed? If so, the > indeed, esp when they use the so called minimal distributions; > miniltx style file (which appears to be part of plain tex) seems like a > viable and simple solution. > > In regard to the remark I saw posted about "monster eps" files, use the > -aZ option and you will see that Asymptote output files are as compact as > those of MetaPost. If you want tex labels, you have to process MetaPost output > through dvips, etc. Asymptote simply does this automatically, perhaps giving > some users the illusion that Asymptote files are bigger. In other words, you > should compare the final postscript files that MetaPost produces, not the > intermediate ones (I recall that there is a MetaPost command for running > MetaPost output through dvips too). > in context dvips is not used for mp graphics; context comes with an integrated mp output parser; this means that integration is also efficient (handy when you have a couple of hundred mp graphics) esp with regards to resources i suppose that others can comment on the rest of your mail Hans -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------