Margin Kerning Problem

Margin Kerning Problem

[Helin Gai]

Hi,

I used the following code to set up margin kerning:

\setupfontsynonym[cmr10][handling=hz]
\setupfontsynonym[Serif][handling=hz]
\usetypescript[cmr]
\setupbodyfont[cmr,10pt]
\setupalign[hz,hanging]

Can someone please tell me what is going wrong?
Thanks!!

Colin

Re: Margin Kerning Problem

[Alan Bowen]

Colin—

I think \setupalign has to come before \setupbodyfont is defined. Try

\setupalign[hz,hanging]

\usetypescript[cmr]

\setupfontsynonym[cmr10][handling=hz]

\setupfontsynonym[Serif][handling=hz]

\setupbodyfont[cmr,10pt]

Alan


On Jul 23, 2006, at 9:54 AM, Helin Gai wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I used the following code to set up margin kerning:
>
> \setupfontsynonym[cmr10][handling=hz]
> \setupfontsynonym[Serif][handling=hz]
> \usetypescript[cmr]
> \setupbodyfont[cmr,10pt]
> \setupalign[hz,hanging]
>
> Can someone please tell me what is going wrong?
> Thanks!!
>
> Colin
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Re: Margin Kerning Problem

[Helin Gai]

Hi Alan,

Thanks for the reply. But it doesn't seem to work either.

Colin

On Jul 23, 2006, at 10:40 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:

> Colin—
>
> I think \setupalign has to come before \setupbodyfont is defined. Try
>
> \setupalign[hz,hanging]
>
> \usetypescript[cmr]
>
> \setupfontsynonym[cmr10][handling=hz]
>
> \setupfontsynonym[Serif][handling=hz]
>
> \setupbodyfont[cmr,10pt]
>
> Alan
>
>
> On Jul 23, 2006, at 9:54 AM, Helin Gai wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I used the following code to set up margin kerning:
>>
>> \setupfontsynonym[cmr10][handling=hz]
>> \setupfontsynonym[Serif][handling=hz]
>> \usetypescript[cmr]
>> \setupbodyfont[cmr,10pt]
>> \setupalign[hz,hanging]
>>
>> Can someone please tell me what is going wrong?
>> Thanks!!
>>
>> Colin
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>
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Re: Margin Kerning Problem

[Alan Bowen]

Colin—

Sorry: what I indicated would work for any font but  Latin/Computer  
Modern.

This works at my end.

\enableregime[mac]
\mainlanguage[en]

%%%%	  Margin Kerning and Font Expansion
\usetypescript[serif,sans,mono,mm][hanging][normal]
\setupalign[hz,hanging]
\setupfootnotes[align={hz,hanging}]

%%%%	  Default Encoding
\setupencoding[default=texnansi]

% install Latin Modern
% install margin kerning before the font is loaded: since Latin is
% loaded before font definitions, load it again

\starttypescript[serif][default][size]
   \definebodyfont[9.5pt,10.5pt][rm][default]
   \definebodyfont[9.5pt,10.5pt][mm][default]
\stoptypescript

On Jul 23, 2006, at 10:43 AM, Helin Gai wrote:

> Hi Alan,
>
> Thanks for the reply. But it doesn't seem to work either.
>
> Colin
>
> On Jul 23, 2006, at 10:40 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:
>
>> Colin—
>>
>> I think \setupalign has to come before \setupbodyfont is defined. Try
>>
>> \setupalign[hz,hanging]
>>
>> \usetypescript[cmr]
>>
>> \setupfontsynonym[cmr10][handling=hz]
>>
>> \setupfontsynonym[Serif][handling=hz]
>>
>> \setupbodyfont[cmr,10pt]
>>
>> Alan
>>
>>
>> On Jul 23, 2006, at 9:54 AM, Helin Gai wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I used the following code to set up margin kerning:
>>>
>>> \setupfontsynonym[cmr10][handling=hz]
>>> \setupfontsynonym[Serif][handling=hz]
>>> \usetypescript[cmr]
>>> \setupbodyfont[cmr,10pt]
>>> \setupalign[hz,hanging]
>>>
>>> Can someone please tell me what is going wrong?
>>> Thanks!!
>>>
>>> Colin
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> ntg-context mailing list
>>> ntg-context@ntg.nl
>>> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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Re: Margin Kerning Problem

[Mojca Miklavec]

On 7/23/06, Helin Gai wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I used the following code to set up margin kerning:
>
> \setupfontsynonym[cmr10][handling=hz]
> \setupfontsynonym[Serif][handling=hz]
> \usetypescript[cmr]
> \setupbodyfont[cmr,10pt]
> \setupalign[hz,hanging]
>
> Can someone please tell me what is going wrong?
> Thanks!!

Does the recipe on
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Protrusion#Use_with_Latin_Modern help
you?

Mojca

Re: Margin Kerning Problem

[Hans Hagen]

Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> On 7/23/06, Helin Gai wrote:
>   
>> Hi,
>>
>> I used the following code to set up margin kerning:
>>
>> \setupfontsynonym[cmr10][handling=hz]
>> \setupfontsynonym[Serif][handling=hz]
>> \usetypescript[cmr]
>> \setupbodyfont[cmr,10pt]
>> \setupalign[hz,hanging]
>>
>> Can someone please tell me what is going wrong?
>> Thanks!!
>>     
>
> Does the recipe on
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Protrusion#Use_with_Latin_Modern help
> you?
>   
because of tex's global font attribute assignments and font resource optimizations, one cannot add features after a font has been defined; so, in you rcase, the cmr fonts have already be defined

try the wiki recipe instead: 

- tell what handlings to use which what style 
- then define the typeface 
- then invoke it 

\setupalign is independent of this and can be applied afterwards when needed 

Hans 

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margin kerning problem

[Alan Bowen]

Sorry for the flurry of questions. But here’s one about margin  
kerning now.

I see that by using
     \usetypescript[serif,sans,mono,mm][hanging][normal]
     \setupalign[hz,hanging]
I can get margin kerning in the body text, but not in any footnotes/ 
endnotes. What else is needed to get margin kerning throughout the  
notes too?

As ever, any advice will be gratefully received.

Alan

Re: margin kerning problem

[Alan Bowen]

To answer my own question:
To get margin kerning in the footnotes/endnotes as well as in the  
body text, put
     \usetypescript[serif,sans,mono,mm][hanging][normal]
     \setupalign[hz,hanging]
     \setupfootnotes[align={hz,hanging}]
before the fonts are installed.

Cheers, A.

On Oct 21, 2005, at 4:29 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:

> Sorry for the flurry of questions. But here’s one about margin  
> kerning now.
>
> I see that by using
>     \usetypescript[serif,sans,mono,mm][hanging][normal]
>     \setupalign[hz,hanging]
> I can get margin kerning in the body text, but not in any footnotes/ 
> endnotes. What else is needed to get margin kerning throughout the  
> notes too?
>
> As ever, any advice will be gratefully received.
>
> Alan
> _______________________________________________
> ntg-context mailing list
> ntg-context@ntg.nl
> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
>

Re: margin kerning problem

[Hans Hagen Test]

Alan Bowen wrote:

> To answer my own question:
> To get margin kerning in the footnotes/endnotes as well as in the  
> body text, put
>     \usetypescript[serif,sans,mono,mm][hanging][normal]
>     \setupalign[hz,hanging]
>     \setupfootnotes[align={hz,hanging}]
> before the fonts are installed.


indeed; this has to do with the fact that pdftex (tex) has some nasty 
global font assignments and optimizations hard coded

Hans

Re: margin kerning problem

[David Wooten]

Greetings all,

On a related note, is there a similar (or dissimilar for that matter)  
solution to margin kerning with the bib-module?

David

On Oct 25, 2005, at 10:04 AM, Hans Hagen Test wrote:

> Alan Bowen wrote:
>
>> To answer my own question:
>> To get margin kerning in the footnotes/endnotes as well as in the   
>> body text, put
>>     \usetypescript[serif,sans,mono,mm][hanging][normal]
>>     \setupalign[hz,hanging]
>>     \setupfootnotes[align={hz,hanging}]
>> before the fonts are installed.
>
> indeed; this has to do with the fact that pdftex (tex) has some  
> nasty global font assignments and optimizations hard coded
>
> Hans

Re: margin kerning problem

[Taco Hoekwater]

David Wooten wrote:
> Greetings all,
> 
> On a related note, is there a similar (or dissimilar for that matter)  
> solution to margin kerning with the bib-module?

I wasn't even aware that there is a problem. The module uses a rather
straightforward list, so if hanging works for the TOC, it should work
for the bib module. And if not, then both should require the same fix.

Taco


> David
> 
> On Oct 25, 2005, at 10:04 AM, Hans Hagen Test wrote:
> 
>> Alan Bowen wrote:
>>
>>> To answer my own question:
>>> To get margin kerning in the footnotes/endnotes as well as in the   
>>> body text, put
>>>     \usetypescript[serif,sans,mono,mm][hanging][normal]
>>>     \setupalign[hz,hanging]
>>>     \setupfootnotes[align={hz,hanging}]
>>> before the fonts are installed.
>>
>>
>> indeed; this has to do with the fact that pdftex (tex) has some  nasty 
>> global font assignments and optimizations hard coded
>>
>> Hans
> 
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Re: margin kerning problem

[David Wooten]

Ah! My mistake. I have a defineparagraph in my bibliography which  
needed the align={hz,hanging} declared. Thanks.

David

On Oct 25, 2005, at 11:21 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

> David Wooten wrote:
>
>> Greetings all,
>> On a related note, is there a similar (or dissimilar for that  
>> matter)  solution to margin kerning with the bib-module?
>
> I wasn't even aware that there is a problem. The module uses a rather
> straightforward list, so if hanging works for the TOC, it should work
> for the bib module. And if not, then both should require the same fix.
>
> Taco

margin kerning problem

[Alan C. Bowen]

Sorry for the flurry of questions. But here’s one about margin  
kerning now.

I see that by using
     \usetypescript[serif,sans,mono,mm][hanging][normal]
     \setupalign[hz,hanging]
I can get margin kerning in the body text, but not in any footnotes/ 
endnotes. What else is needed to get margin kerning throughout the  
notes too?

As ever, any advice will be gratefully received.

Alan