From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/29732 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Renaud AUBIN Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: setupitemize confusion Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 09:11:09 +0200 Message-ID: <44C8670D.4040901@nibua-r.org> References: <2716E084-8B29-4B4B-99FE-195D2929BBA9@st.estfiles.de> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1251490615==" X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1153984298 19620 80.91.229.2 (27 Jul 2006 07:11:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 07:11:38 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Jul 27 09:11:37 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G601t-00041L-Ri for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 09:11:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6972C1FE0B; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 09:11:33 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 02926-01; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 09:11:26 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 123B21FE16; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 09:11:26 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 264F51FE16 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 09:11:23 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 02695-05 for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 09:11:19 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from 42.mail-out.ovh.net (42.mail-out.ovh.net [213.251.189.42]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id A9DD71FE0B for ; Thu, 27 Jul 2006 09:11:18 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: (qmail 15554 invoked by uid 503); 27 Jul 2006 07:11:11 -0000 Original-Received: from b6.ovh.net (HELO mail175.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.56) by 42.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 27 Jul 2006 07:11:11 -0000 Original-Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queue-out) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 27 Jul 2006 07:11:17 -0000 Original-Received: from d83-179-156-164.cust.tele2.fr (HELO ?192.168.78.10?) (aubin@nibua-r.org@83.179.156.164) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 27 Jul 2006 07:11:15 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051017) X-Accept-Language: fr, en Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: X-Ovh-Remote: 83.179.156.164 (d83-179-156-164.cust.tele2.fr) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|H 0.5/0.5/5.0/N X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:29732 Archived-At: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1251490615== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020101080304070203070104" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020101080304070203070104 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Steffen, Can you provide some working sample code (two or three typical entries + wrap with \start/stopitemize) ? Is your bibliography big ? I assume your this work is urgent and you can't make a .bib, right ? Renaud Steffen Wolfrum a =E9crit : >Am 27.07.2006 um 08:05 schrieb Aditya Mahajan: > > =20 > >>On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: >> >> =20 >> >>>Am 27.07.2006 um 07:32 schrieb Aditya Mahajan: >>> >>> =20 >>> >>>>On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: >>>> >>>> =20 >>>> >>>>>Hi, >>>>> >>>>>both paragraph should be indented 12 pt. But there are different: >>>>> >>>>>\starttext >>>>> >>>>>\startitemize[width=3D12pt] >>>>>\sym{\endash}\input tufte >>>>>\stopitemize >>>>> >>>>>\setupitemize[width=3D12pt] >>>>>\sym{\endash}\input tufte >>>>> >>>>>\stoptext >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>How do I make the second the same as the first? >>>>> =20 >>>>> >>>>Shouldn't you wrap the second one with \startstop itemize? >>>> >>>>\setupitemize[width=3D12pt] >>>>\startitemize >>>>\sym{\endash}\input tufte >>>>\stopitemize >>>> >>>>Aditya >>>> =20 >>>> >>> >>>Well, I hope not! >>> >>>As far as I understood the manual (cont-eni) one can use \item and >>>\sym also without the start-stop environment: in cases where it is >>>just needed as one entry (not a list). >>>This works, somehow. But is there no setup possible? >>> >>>I need it in a bibliography: the normal entries "author, title etc. >>>maybe two lines" are hangindented with \hangafter=3D1\hangindent=3D12p= t. >>>But when a author has two or more titles it is written "- title etc. >>>maybe two lines". And here the "- " must be the same space as the >>>hangindent (12pt), as one can imagine easily. >>>That's why I used a \item res. \sym for this. And a start/stop each >>>would make the code quite chaotic. >>> >>>But maybe there is even another solution for this construction, even >>>better? >>> =20 >>> >>Ask Taco to implement this in the bib module :-) >> =20 >> > > >The bib module won't help (I assume): the bibliography is already =20 >typed, not generated. > >Steffen > >_______________________________________________ >ntg-context mailing list >ntg-context@ntg.nl >http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > > > =20 > --------------020101080304070203070104 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Steffen,

Can you provide some working sample code (two or three typical entries + wrap with \start/stopitemize) ?
Is your bibliography big ? I assume your this work is urgent and you can't make a .bib, right ?

Renaud

Steffen Wolfrum a écrit : 
Am 27.07.2006 um 08:05 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:

  
On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:

    
Am 27.07.2006 um 07:32 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:

      
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:

        
Hi,

both paragraph should be indented 12 pt. But there are different:

\starttext

\startitemize[width=12pt]
\sym{\endash}\input tufte
\stopitemize

\setupitemize[width=12pt]
\sym{\endash}\input tufte

\stoptext


How do I make the second the same as the first?
          
Shouldn't you wrap the second one with \startstop itemize?

\setupitemize[width=12pt]
\startitemize
\sym{\endash}\input tufte
\stopitemize

Aditya
        

Well, I hope not!

As far as I understood the manual (cont-eni) one can use \item and
\sym also without the start-stop environment: in cases where it is
just needed as one entry (not a list).
This works, somehow. But is there no setup possible?

I need it in a bibliography: the normal entries "author, title etc.
maybe two lines" are hangindented with \hangafter=1\hangindent=12pt.
But when a author has two or more titles it is written "- title etc.
maybe two lines". And here the "- " must be the same space as the
hangindent (12pt), as one can imagine easily.
That's why I used a \item res. \sym for this. And a start/stop each
would make the code quite chaotic.

But maybe there is even another solution for this construction, even
better?
      
Ask Taco to implement this in the bib module :-)
    


The bib module won't help (I assume): the bibliography is already  
typed, not generated.

Steffen

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