* Floats Method [not found] <mailman.153.1154467877.2039.ntg-context@ntg.nl> @ 2006-08-02 8:39 ` wwl 2006-08-13 7:46 ` Taco Hoekwater 2006-08-02 8:39 ` Snapping sectionhead wwl 1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: wwl @ 2006-08-02 8:39 UTC (permalink / raw) Hallo! In \setupfloats[] what exactly is the difference between textmethod and sidemethod? Compared with the gridsize, why does a 1 point window (method=2) help when typesetting on grids? Isn't 1% (method=1) much more in the most cases than 1 point? Wolfgang ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Floats Method 2006-08-02 8:39 ` Floats Method wwl @ 2006-08-13 7:46 ` Taco Hoekwater 2006-08-14 20:41 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2006-08-13 7:46 UTC (permalink / raw) wwl@musensturm.de wrote: > Hallo! > > In \setupfloats[] what exactly is the difference between textmethod > and sidemethod? textmethod is used for floats inside the text flow, sidemethod for sidefloats. > Compared with the gridsize, why does a 1 point window (method=2) help > when typesetting on grids? I assume it corrects for the \lineskip glue. > Isn't 1% (method=1) much more in the most cases than 1 point? Yes it would be. Perhaps that one is because of \maxdepth, but I am only guessing. The fact that there are two methods could be simply a trial-and-error left over. Taco ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Floats Method 2006-08-13 7:46 ` Taco Hoekwater @ 2006-08-14 20:41 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2006-08-14 20:41 UTC (permalink / raw) Taco Hoekwater wrote: > wwl@musensturm.de wrote: > >> Hallo! >> >> In \setupfloats[] what exactly is the difference between textmethod >> and sidemethod? >> > > textmethod is used for floats inside the text flow, sidemethod for > sidefloats. > > >> Compared with the gridsize, why does a 1 point window (method=2) help >> when typesetting on grids? >> > > I assume it corrects for the \lineskip glue. > > >> Isn't 1% (method=1) much more in the most cases than 1 point? >> > > Yes it would be. Perhaps that one is because of \maxdepth, > but I am only guessing. The fact that there are two methods > could be simply a trial-and-error left over. > kind of; depending on the way a document is set up, rounding errors play a role, so the 1pt is taking care if that, while the .99 is th eold method; tricky stuff anyway Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Snapping sectionhead [not found] <mailman.153.1154467877.2039.ntg-context@ntg.nl> 2006-08-02 8:39 ` Floats Method wwl @ 2006-08-02 8:39 ` wwl 2006-08-13 7:52 ` Taco Hoekwater 1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: wwl @ 2006-08-02 8:39 UTC (permalink / raw) Hallo! While I was reading 'In the Details' to learn more about grid- typesetting, I could not comprehend the examples with grid={broad,...}. Then in section 1.8 I read that grid=line should be a shortcut for grid={broad,high,depth}. But these two variants gave me not the same result! Try \setuplayout[grid=yes] \definehead[Demo][section] \setuphead[Demo][style=\bfb, before=\blank, after=\blank, grid={broad,high,depth}] %\setuphead[Demo][style=\bfb,before=\blank,after=\blank,grid=line] \showgrid \starttext \Demo{Agathe} Bla blubber \stoptext Hmm! Wolfgang ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Snapping sectionhead 2006-08-02 8:39 ` Snapping sectionhead wwl @ 2006-08-13 7:52 ` Taco Hoekwater 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2006-08-13 7:52 UTC (permalink / raw) wwl@musensturm.de wrote: > Hallo! > > While I was reading 'In the Details' to learn more about grid- > typesetting, I could not comprehend the examples with > grid={broad,...}. > > Then in section 1.8 I read that grid=line should be a shortcut for > grid={broad,high,depth}. Section 1.8 deals \exclusively with \externalfigure. Apparently the grid option for sectioning commands is handled differently. Taco ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
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* Re: Snapping sectionhead [not found] <mailman.1.1155463203.3247.ntg-context@ntg.nl> @ 2006-08-13 21:24 ` wwl 2006-08-13 21:33 ` Taco Hoekwater 2006-08-15 15:15 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: wwl @ 2006-08-13 21:24 UTC (permalink / raw) Hallo! > > While I was reading 'In the Details' to learn more about grid- > > typesetting, I could not comprehend the examples with > > grid={broad,...}. > > > > Then in section 1.8 I read that grid=line should be a shortcut for > > grid={broad,high,depth}. > > Section 1.8 deals \exclusively with \externalfigure. Apparently > the grid option for sectioning commands is handled differently. In my version of 'In the Details', dated 2002 chapter 1 deals with 'Snapping section heads' and section 1.8 is titled 'Snapping around (broad,high,depth).' Is there a newer variant of that manual? Wolfgang ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Snapping sectionhead 2006-08-13 21:24 ` wwl @ 2006-08-13 21:33 ` Taco Hoekwater 2006-08-15 15:15 ` Hans Hagen 1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2006-08-13 21:33 UTC (permalink / raw) wwl@musensturm.de wrote: > Hallo! > >>> While I was reading 'In the Details' to learn more about grid- >>> typesetting, I could not comprehend the examples with >>> grid={broad,...}. >>> >>> Then in section 1.8 I read that grid=line should be a shortcut for >>> grid={broad,high,depth}. >> Section 1.8 deals \exclusively with \externalfigure. Apparently >> the grid option for sectioning commands is handled differently. > > In my version of 'In the Details', dated 2002 chapter 1 deals with > 'Snapping section heads' and section 1.8 is titled 'Snapping around > (broad,high,depth).' > Is there a newer variant of that manual? Must be, I read mine online from http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/details.pdf while I was keying in this answer. Greetings, Taco ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Snapping sectionhead 2006-08-13 21:24 ` wwl 2006-08-13 21:33 ` Taco Hoekwater @ 2006-08-15 15:15 ` Hans Hagen 1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2006-08-15 15:15 UTC (permalink / raw) wwl@musensturm.de wrote: > Hallo! > > >>> While I was reading 'In the Details' to learn more about grid- >>> typesetting, I could not comprehend the examples with >>> grid={broad,...}. >>> >>> Then in section 1.8 I read that grid=line should be a shortcut for >>> grid={broad,high,depth}. >>> >> Section 1.8 deals \exclusively with \externalfigure. Apparently >> the grid option for sectioning commands is handled differently. >> > > In my version of 'In the Details', dated 2002 chapter 1 deals with > 'Snapping section heads' and section 1.8 is titled 'Snapping around > (broad,high,depth).' > Is there a newer variant of that manual? > the grid options as discussed with sections, are the ones that are taken care of by the \snaptogrid macro; the grid key in externalfigure is not related to that, it relates to scaling, as in \setuplayout[grid=yes] \showgrid \setupcaptions[style=smallbodyfont,location=grid,inbetween=] \defineexternalfigure[enkel] [width=10cm,frame=on,grid=depth] \defineexternalfigure[dubbel][width=10cm,frame=on,grid=depth] \starttext test \placefigure{} {\externalfigure[t:/sources/cow.pdf][frame=on,grid=yes]} test \page test \placefigure{\input zapf\relax}{\externalfigure[t:/sources/cow.pdf][frame=on,grid=yes]} test \page test \placefigure{} {\externalfigure[t:/sources/cow.pdf][enkel]} test \page test \placefigure{\input zapf\relax}{\externalfigure[t:/sources/cow.pdf][enkel]} test \page \stoptext i.e. the grid option determins which way a height snaps (or is rounded); hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
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* Re: Snapping sectionhead [not found] <mailman.1.1155549602.30697.ntg-context@ntg.nl> @ 2006-08-14 17:30 ` wwl 2006-08-14 17:58 ` taco hoekwater 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: wwl @ 2006-08-14 17:30 UTC (permalink / raw) > Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 23:33:38 +0200 > From: Taco Hoekwater <taco@elvenkind.com> > Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Snapping sectionhead > >>> While I was reading 'In the Details' to learn more about grid- > >>> typesetting, I could not comprehend the examples with > >>> grid={broad,...}. > >>> > >>> Then in section 1.8 I read that grid=line should be a shortcut > for > >>> grid={broad,high,depth}. > >> Section 1.8 deals \exclusively with \externalfigure. Apparently > >> the grid option for sectioning commands is handled differently. > > > > In my version of 'In the Details', dated 2002 chapter 1 deals with > > 'Snapping section heads' and section 1.8 is titled 'Snapping > around > > (broad,high,depth).' > > Is there a newer variant of that manual? > > Must be, I read mine online from > > http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/details.pdf > > while I was keying in this answer. > > Greetings, > Taco I checked this. But it is the same document! Section 1.8 deals there with 'Snapping section heads' too. Wolfgang ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Snapping sectionhead 2006-08-14 17:30 ` wwl @ 2006-08-14 17:58 ` taco hoekwater 2006-08-14 18:39 ` taco hoekwater 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: taco hoekwater @ 2006-08-14 17:58 UTC (permalink / raw) wwl@musensturm.de wrote: >> Must be, I read mine online from >> >> http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/details.pdf >> >> while I was keying in this answer. >> >> Greetings, >> Taco > > I checked this. > > But it is the same document! > > Section 1.8 deals there with 'Snapping section heads' too. Oops excuse me. I was reading _chapter 8_ . I'll try to find the difference Taco ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* Re: Snapping sectionhead 2006-08-14 17:58 ` taco hoekwater @ 2006-08-14 18:39 ` taco hoekwater 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: taco hoekwater @ 2006-08-14 18:39 UTC (permalink / raw) taco hoekwater wrote: > wwl@musensturm.de wrote: >>> Must be, I read mine online from >>> >>> http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/details.pdf >>> >>> while I was keying in this answer. >>> >>> Greetings, >>> Taco >> I checked this. >> >> But it is the same document! >> >> Section 1.8 deals there with 'Snapping section heads' too. > > Oops excuse me. I was reading _chapter 8_ . I'll try to > find the difference Ok: yes they are definately different, but at the moment I don't know why. I predict that it is the manual that needs fixing, though. Taco ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
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