Re: Snapping sectionhead

Re: Snapping sectionhead

[wwl]

Hallo!

> > While I was reading 'In the Details' to learn more about grid-
> > typesetting, I could not comprehend the examples with 
> > grid={broad,...}. 
> > 
> > Then in section 1.8 I read that grid=line should be a shortcut for
> > grid={broad,high,depth}.
> 
> Section 1.8 deals \exclusively with \externalfigure. Apparently
> the grid option for sectioning commands is handled differently.

In my version of 'In the Details', dated 2002 chapter 1 deals with 
'Snapping section heads' and section 1.8 is titled 'Snapping around 
(broad,high,depth).' 
Is there a newer variant of that manual?

Wolfgang

Re: some questions

[wwl]

> > \setupcolors[state=start]
> > \starttext
> > How can I use the brace-key right?
> > \starttable[| \{ |]
> 
> the wiki entry is not that clear ("enclose the column in braces").
> \{ is a just a grouping command (which directly gives a solution
> for
> your second answer)
> 
> Use
>   [| a{\{}b{\}} |]
> 
> to add "braces"
> 
> > \NC no braces \SR
> > \stoptable
> > 
> > What I am doing wrong here?
> > \starttable[ o1 | C{red} |]
> 
>                     \{C{red}

Ahh! I see!
So '\{' is a table command NOT a FormatKey? 

But why is '\{' introduced in 'thrd-tab.tex' with 
\NewFormatKey \{{..} as a primitive key?

The wikiwriter has obviously used this source too.


> > Should'nt \arg{bla} be \type{{bla}}?

\arg{bla} gives me 'argbla'!

Wolfgang

Re: Snapping sectionhead

[Taco Hoekwater]

wwl@musensturm.de wrote:
> Hallo!
> 
>>> While I was reading 'In the Details' to learn more about grid-
>>> typesetting, I could not comprehend the examples with 
>>> grid={broad,...}. 
>>>
>>> Then in section 1.8 I read that grid=line should be a shortcut for
>>> grid={broad,high,depth}.
>> Section 1.8 deals \exclusively with \externalfigure. Apparently
>> the grid option for sectioning commands is handled differently.
> 
> In my version of 'In the Details', dated 2002 chapter 1 deals with 
> 'Snapping section heads' and section 1.8 is titled 'Snapping around 
> (broad,high,depth).' 
> Is there a newer variant of that manual?

Must be, I read mine online from

   http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/details.pdf

while I was keying in this answer.

Greetings,
Taco

Re: some questions

[Peter Rolf]

wwl@musensturm.de wrote:
>>> \setupcolors[state=start]
>>> \starttext
>>> How can I use the brace-key right?
>>> \starttable[| \{ |]
>> the wiki entry is not that clear ("enclose the column in braces").
>> \{ is a just a grouping command (which directly gives a solution
>> for
>> your second answer)
>>
>> Use
>>   [| a{\{}b{\}} |]
>>
>> to add "braces"
>>
>>> \NC no braces \SR
>>> \stoptable
>>>
>>> What I am doing wrong here?
>>> \starttable[ o1 | C{red} |]
>>                     \{C{red}
> 
> Ahh! I see!
> So '\{' is a table command NOT a FormatKey? 
> 
> But why is '\{' introduced in 'thrd-tab.tex' with 
> \NewFormatKey \{{..} as a primitive key?
> 
> The wikiwriter has obviously used this source too.
>
Sorry, I don't know.

> 
>>> Should'nt \arg{bla} be \type{{bla}}?
> 
> \arg{bla} gives me 'argbla'!
> 
I have no idea what it is used for. Using it in math environment
$\arg{bla}$ gives me

"arg {\it bla}"

which is much better than 'argbla'. I guess it's a math only macro.

Greetings, Peter

> Wolfgang
> 
> 
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Re: Snapping sectionhead

[Hans Hagen]

wwl@musensturm.de wrote:
> Hallo!
>
>   
>>> While I was reading 'In the Details' to learn more about grid-
>>> typesetting, I could not comprehend the examples with 
>>> grid={broad,...}. 
>>>
>>> Then in section 1.8 I read that grid=line should be a shortcut for
>>> grid={broad,high,depth}.
>>>       
>> Section 1.8 deals \exclusively with \externalfigure. Apparently
>> the grid option for sectioning commands is handled differently.
>>     
>
> In my version of 'In the Details', dated 2002 chapter 1 deals with 
> 'Snapping section heads' and section 1.8 is titled 'Snapping around 
> (broad,high,depth).' 
> Is there a newer variant of that manual?
>   
the grid options as discussed with sections, are the ones that are taken care of by the \snaptogrid macro; the grid key in externalfigure is not related to that, it relates to scaling, as in

\setuplayout[grid=yes] \showgrid \setupcaptions[style=smallbodyfont,location=grid,inbetween=]

\defineexternalfigure[enkel] [width=10cm,frame=on,grid=depth]
\defineexternalfigure[dubbel][width=10cm,frame=on,grid=depth]

\starttext

test \placefigure{}                 {\externalfigure[t:/sources/cow.pdf][frame=on,grid=yes]} test \page
test \placefigure{\input zapf\relax}{\externalfigure[t:/sources/cow.pdf][frame=on,grid=yes]} test \page

test \placefigure{}                 {\externalfigure[t:/sources/cow.pdf][enkel]} test \page
test \placefigure{\input zapf\relax}{\externalfigure[t:/sources/cow.pdf][enkel]} test \page

\stoptext

i.e. the grid option determins which way a height snaps (or is rounded); 

hans 


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Re: Snapping sectionhead

[taco hoekwater]

taco hoekwater wrote:
> wwl@musensturm.de wrote:
>>> Must be, I read mine online from
>>>
>>>    http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/details.pdf
>>>
>>> while I was keying in this answer.
>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>> Taco
>> I checked this.
>>
>> But it is the same document!
>>
>> Section 1.8 deals there with 'Snapping section heads' too.
> 
> Oops excuse me. I was reading _chapter 8_ . I'll try to
> find the difference

Ok: yes they are definately different, but at the moment I don't
know why. I predict that it is the manual that needs fixing,
though.

Taco

Re: Snapping sectionhead

[taco hoekwater]

wwl@musensturm.de wrote:
>> Must be, I read mine online from
>>
>>    http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/details.pdf
>>
>> while I was keying in this answer.
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Taco
> 
> I checked this.
> 
> But it is the same document!
> 
> Section 1.8 deals there with 'Snapping section heads' too.


Oops excuse me. I was reading _chapter 8_ . I'll try to
find the difference

Taco

Re: Snapping sectionhead

[wwl]

> Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 23:33:38 +0200
> From: Taco Hoekwater <taco@elvenkind.com>
> Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Snapping sectionhead

> >>> While I was reading 'In the Details' to learn more about grid-
> >>> typesetting, I could not comprehend the examples with 
> >>> grid={broad,...}. 
> >>>
> >>> Then in section 1.8 I read that grid=line should be a shortcut
> for
> >>> grid={broad,high,depth}.
> >> Section 1.8 deals \exclusively with \externalfigure. Apparently
> >> the grid option for sectioning commands is handled differently.
> > 
> > In my version of 'In the Details', dated 2002 chapter 1 deals with
> > 'Snapping section heads' and section 1.8 is titled 'Snapping
> around 
> > (broad,high,depth).' 
> > Is there a newer variant of that manual?
> 
> Must be, I read mine online from
> 
>    http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/details.pdf
> 
> while I was keying in this answer.
> 
> Greetings,
> Taco

I checked this.

But it is the same document!

Section 1.8 deals there with 'Snapping section heads' too.

Wolfgang

Re: Snapping sectionhead

[Taco Hoekwater]

wwl@musensturm.de wrote:
> Hallo!
> 
> While I was reading 'In the Details' to learn more about grid-
> typesetting, I could not comprehend the examples with 
> grid={broad,...}. 
> 
> Then in section 1.8 I read that grid=line should be a shortcut for 
> grid={broad,high,depth}.

Section 1.8 deals \exclusively with \externalfigure. Apparently
the grid option for sectioning commands is handled differently.

Taco

Snapping sectionhead

[wwl]

Hallo!

While I was reading 'In the Details' to learn more about grid-
typesetting, I could not comprehend the examples with 
grid={broad,...}. 

Then in section 1.8 I read that grid=line should be a shortcut for 
grid={broad,high,depth}.

But these two variants gave me not the same result!

Try

\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\definehead[Demo][section]
\setuphead[Demo][style=\bfb,
                 before=\blank,
                 after=\blank,
                 grid={broad,high,depth}]
%\setuphead[Demo][style=\bfb,before=\blank,after=\blank,grid=line]
\showgrid
\starttext
\Demo{Agathe}
Bla blubber
\stoptext

Hmm!

Wolfgang