From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE,URIBL_SBL_A autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 27114 invoked from network); 27 Apr 2023 21:50:53 -0000 Received: from zapf.ntg.nl (5.39.185.232) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 27 Apr 2023 21:50:53 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F191B790; Thu, 27 Apr 2023 23:50:30 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at zapf.ntg.nl Received: from zapf.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zapf.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oNBdT_dyK8LB; Thu, 27 Apr 2023 23:50:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zapf.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 175009B7; Thu, 27 Apr 2023 23:50:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86F8B9B7 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2023 23:50:24 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at zapf.ntg.nl Received: from zapf.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zapf.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bL7AkUcT7Apt for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2023 23:50:21 +0200 (CEST) Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=69.60.111.174; helo=mailmanlian.computerisms.ca; envelope-from=lynx@polarcom.com; receiver= Received: from mailmanlian.computerisms.ca (mailmanlian.computerisms.ca [69.60.111.174]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 810946BA for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2023 23:50:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 31031 invoked from network); 27 Apr 2023 17:51:31 -0400 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 31026, pid: 31029, t: 0.0443s scanners: attach: 1.4.0 Received: from unknown (HELO rc.computerisms.ca) (127.0.0.1) by mailmanlian.computerisms.ca with SMTP; 27 Apr 2023 17:51:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2023 14:51:30 -0700 To: mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: <1e9a732d0d76d5418abcae05eda36003bbde34ac.camel@telus.net> References: <1e9a732d0d76d5418abcae05eda36003bbde34ac.camel@telus.net> Message-ID: <45108ef43900d773f2c414938183c587@polarcom.com> X-Sender: lynx@polarcom.com User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.2.1 Subject: Re: [NTG-context] update X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.38 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: lynx--- via ntg-context Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Cc: lynx@polarcom.com Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5360280024257923609==" Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sender: "ntg-context" --===============5360280024257923609== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_f7464cfdc3ed34ca3ad1aa23e51126f2" --=_f7464cfdc3ed34ca3ad1aa23e51126f2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Hello, Max: As suggested, I have installed the "standalone" version of ConTeXt alongside my full TeXlive installation. Now: * How can I be sure that the standalone version is the one being implemented? * How do I update the standalone version (I assume that, as of today, it is already the most up-to-date version--Yes? No?), if and when it is required or desired to do so? Lynx On 2023-04-27 01:32, Max Chernoff via ntg-context wrote: > Hi Hans, > >> I actually dont' know the rules for updating texlive but there are >> definitely updates. > > The rules are: > > - Packages and formats are updated about 24 hours after a new version > is uploaded to CTAN. > > - Binaries are only updated once-per-year. > > But there are also some special cases: > > - The luatex binary will be updated shortly for "reasons" (details to > be made public later). > > - The luametatex binary is allowed to be updated whenever. > > https://tug.org/pipermail/tex-live/2023-March/049058.html > > - I have no idea how ConTeXt is added to TL, but it doesn't appear to > be through the usual automatic CTAN sync. > >> Basically tex live is the yearly snapshot. > > Because you're allowed to update luametatex at will and luatex hardly > changes, you could update the ConTeXt in TL more than once per year. > There's no need for it to get as many updates as the standalone > distribution, but it would be nice to get an update every 3 months or > so. (I have no idea how much work this is for you+Mojca, so it's maybe > not worth the effort). > >> But you can just install the lmtx installation alongside (it's small >> compared to tex live) and have the best of both worlds. The lmtx >> installation also has mkiv. It also comes with the fonts that match >> what we expect in context (as fonts get updated or changed). > > Lynx, I'll second this recommendation. The standalone lmtx distribution > is updated weekly-ish, uses less than 400MB disk space when installed, > and coexists happily with TL. The only downside is that it doesn't have > a friendly installation GUI like TL does. Even then, I personally find > it easier to install than TL. > > Installation instructions: > > https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Installation > > Thanks, > -- Max > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : https://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ --=_f7464cfdc3ed34ca3ad1aa23e51126f2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8

Hello, Max:


As suggested, I have installed the "standalone" version of ConTeXt a= longside my full TeXlive installation.

Now:

  1. How can I be sure that the standalone version is the one being impl= emented?
  2. How do I update the standalone version (I assume that, as of today, it = is already the most up-to-date version--Yes? No?), if and when it is requir= ed or desired to do so?


Lynx




On 2023-04-27 01:32, Max Chernoff via ntg-context wrote:

=
Hi Hans,

I actually dont' know the rules f= or updating texlive but there are
definitely updates.

The rules are:

=C2=A0- Packages and formats are updated about = 24 hours after a new version
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0is uploaded to CTAN.
= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
=C2=A0- Binaries are only updated once-per-year.
But there are also some special cases:

=C2=A0- The luatex bin= ary will be updated shortly for "reasons" (details to=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0be made public later).
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
=C2=A0- The luam= etatex binary is allowed to be updated whenever.

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0https://tug.org/pipermail/tex-live/2023-March/049058.html<= br>
=C2=A0- I have no idea how ConTeXt is added to TL, but it doesn't a= ppear to=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0be through the usual automatic CTAN sy= nc.
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
Basically tex live is the yearly snapshot.
Because you're allowed to update luametatex at will and luatex hardly<= br> changes, you could update the ConTeXt in TL more than once per year. There's no need for it to get as many updates as the standalone
distr= ibution, but it would be nice to get an update every 3 months or
so. (I= have no idea how much work this is for you+Mojca, so it's maybe
not wo= rth the effort).

But you can just install the l= mtx installation alongside (it's small
compared to tex live) and have t= he best of both worlds. The lmtx
installation also has mkiv. It also co= mes with the fonts that match
what we expect in context (as fonts get u= pdated or changed).

Lynx, I'll second this recommendation. The standalone lmtx distributio= n
is updated weekly-ish, uses less than 400MB disk space when installed= ,
and coexists happily with TL. The only downside is that it doesn't ha= ve
a friendly installation GUI like TL does. Even then, I personally fi= nd
it easier to install than TL.

Installation instructions:
=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Installation
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0<= br> Thanks,
-- Max
________________________________________________= ___________________________________
If your question is of interest to = others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinf= o/ntg-context
webpage =C2=A0: https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http= ://context.aanhet.net
archive =C2=A0: https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirro= r/commits/
wiki =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0: https://contextgarden.net
____________________________= _______________________________________________________


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