Re: Problems mapping Xml into ConTeXt

Re: Problems mapping Xml into ConTeXt

[Michael Wigston]

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Hans Hagen wrote:
> Michael Wigston wrote:
> > 1.  This def of <u> does nothing ...
> > \defineXMLgrouped [u] \underbar
> >
> \defineXMLargument[u]{\underbar}
> 
> underbar is not a font switch but a macro that takes an argument

Hans,

Thanks, that works fine with \underbar, as well as \underbars, 
\overstrike, \overstrikes, \low, \high and \lohi.

You mentioned that \underbar (and presumably the others I mentioned above) 
are macros taking arguments e.g. \acommand{...}. However presumably 
something like \midaligned{...}  is also a macro requiring an argument, 
but this works as a \defineXMLgrouped and as a \defineXMLargument - why 
does it  work with both?

The manual "XML in ConTeXt" very briefly sketched over these XML commands 
and I can see great potential to use them directly on XML to generate 
ConTeXt for PDF rather than the XSLT/XSL-FO route which seems to be 
gaining momentum in much of the industry. I don't suppose there is another 
more detailed document which elaborates on the XML commands, and how you 
may determine which of these is most appropriate for what kind of ConTeXt 
command mapping? 

Also at the moment a non-mapped element seems to automatically type out 
its contents as straight text - is there a way to override this behaviour 
and specify this as an error? (This is rather like the Ruby duck-typing 
approach - if an XML element is mapped, process it, else it is an error). 

Michael
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Re: Problems mapping Xml into ConTeXt

[Hans Hagen]

Michael Wigston wrote:
>
> Hans Hagen wrote:
> > Michael Wigston wrote:
> > > 1.  This def of <u> does nothing ...
> > > \defineXMLgrouped [u] \underbar
> > >
> > \defineXMLargument[u]{\underbar}
> >
> > underbar is not a font switch but a macro that takes an argument
>
> Hans,
>
> Thanks, that works fine with \underbar, as well as \underbars, 
> \overstrike, \overstrikes, \low, \high and \lohi.
>
> You mentioned that \underbar (and presumably the others I mentioned 
> above) are macros taking arguments e.g. \acommand{...}. However 
> presumably something like \midaligned{...}  is also a macro requiring 
> an argument, but this works as a \defineXMLgrouped and as a 
> \defineXMLargument - why does it  work with both?
the macro ones do manipulate their argument, for instance, underbar is 
not a font charateristic or color switch or so i.e. not a real 
attribute; esp using setups will make your style look better (look into 
x-fo for instance, forget about the dirty tricks there, but it's pretty 
clean; mapping values and so save many macro definitions
>
> The manual "XML in ConTeXt" very briefly sketched over these XML 
> commands and I can see great potential to use them directly on XML to 
> generate ConTeXt for PDF rather than the XSLT/XSL-FO route which seems 
> to be gaining momentum in much of the industry. I don't suppose there 
> is another more detailed document which elaborates on the XML 
> commands, and how you may determine which of these is most appropriate 
> for what kind of ConTeXt command mapping? 
you can take a look into the x-* files which show quite some mappings; 
indeed direct mapping is often more convenient than transformations; 
future versions of context will also offer more manipulation possibilities
>
>
> Also at the moment a non-mapped element seems to automatically type 
> out its contents as straight text - is there a way to override this 
> behaviour and specify this as an error? (This is rather like the Ruby 
> duck-typing approach - if an XML element is mapped, process it, else 
> it is an error).  
\startXMLignore
\stopXMLignore 

in xtag-pre you can see: 

\defineXMLenvironment [\s!default] \defaultXMLelement \defaultXMLelement
\defineXMLsingular    [\s!default] \defaultXMLelement

% \def\defaultXMLelement
%   {\iftraceXMLelements[\currentXMLfullidentifier]\fi}

\def\defaultXMLelement
  {\iftraceXMLelements{\infofont<\currentXMLfullidentifier>}\fi}

%D We can use the default handler to implement automatic
%D element hiding. Beware: this overloads the tracer.

\def\startXMLignore{\dododefineXMLignore \s!default}
\def\stopXMLignore {\dododefineXMLprocess\s!default}

so you can play with the default handlers 

Hans 

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Re: Problems mapping Xml into ConTeXt

[Michael Wigston]

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> Michael Wigston wrote:
> >
> > Hans Hagen wrote:
> > > Michael Wigston wrote:
> > > > 1.  This def of <u> does nothing ...
> > > > \defineXMLgrouped [u] \underbar
> > > >
> > > \defineXMLargument[u]{\underbar}
> > >
> > > underbar is not a font switch but a macro that takes an argument
> >
> > Hans,
> >
> > Thanks, that works fine with \underbar, as well as \underbars, 
> > \overstrike, \overstrikes, \low, \high and \lohi.
> >
> > You mentioned that \underbar (and presumably the others I mentioned 
> > above) are macros taking arguments e.g. \acommand{...}. However 
> > presumably something like \midaligned{...}  is also a macro requiring 
> > an argument, but this works as a \defineXMLgrouped and as a 
> > \defineXMLargument - why does it  work with both?
> the macro ones do manipulate their argument, for instance, underbar is 
> not a font charateristic or color switch or so i.e. not a real 
> attribute; esp using setups will make your style look better (look into 
> x-fo for instance, forget about the dirty tricks there, but it's pretty 
> clean; mapping values and so save many macro definitions
> >
> > The manual "XML in ConTeXt" very briefly sketched over these XML 
> > commands and I can see great potential to use them directly on XML to 
> > generate ConTeXt for PDF rather than the XSLT/XSL-FO route which seems 

> > to be gaining momentum in much of the industry. I don't suppose there 
> > is another more detailed document which elaborates on the XML 
> > commands, and how you may determine which of these is most appropriate 

> > for what kind of ConTeXt command mapping? 
> you can take a look into the x-* files which show quite some mappings; 
> indeed direct mapping is often more convenient than transformations; 
> future versions of context will also offer more manipulation 
possibilities
> >
> >
> > Also at the moment a non-mapped element seems to automatically type 
> > out its contents as straight text - is there a way to override this 
> > behaviour and specify this as an error? (This is rather like the Ruby 
> > duck-typing approach - if an XML element is mapped, process it, else 
> > it is an error). 
> \startXMLignore
> \stopXMLignore 
> 
> in xtag-pre you can see: 
> 
> \defineXMLenvironment [\s!default] \defaultXMLelement \defaultXMLelement
> \defineXMLsingular    [\s!default] \defaultXMLelement
> 
> % \def\defaultXMLelement
> %   {\iftraceXMLelements[\currentXMLfullidentifier]\fi}
> 
> \def\defaultXMLelement
>   {\iftraceXMLelements{\infofont<\currentXMLfullidentifier>}\fi}
> 
> %D We can use the default handler to implement automatic
> %D element hiding. Beware: this overloads the tracer.
> 
> \def\startXMLignore{\dododefineXMLignore \s!default}
> \def\stopXMLignore {\dododefineXMLprocess\s!default}
> 
> so you can play with the default handlers 
> 

Thanks, looks like I'll have to do some digging in the x-* files ...

Regards,


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Re: Problems mapping Xml into ConTeXt

[Hans Hagen]

Michael Wigston wrote:
> 1.  This def of <u> does nothing ...
> \defineXMLgrouped [u] \underbar
>
\defineXMLargument[u]{\underbar}

underbar is not a font switch but a macro that takes an argument

Hans

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Problems mapping Xml into ConTeXt

[Michael Wigston]

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Hi everyone,

I am attempting to map some XML into ConTeXt as described in the manual 
"XML in ConTeXt".  Essentially we have a bunch of tagged text (the XML 
"loosely" based on some of the  XHTML tags) from which we want to produce 
PDF letters for dispatch (via email, post etc). 

I am having particular problems implementing the following commands: -
        \underbar, \underbars, \overstrike, \overstrikes, \low, \high and 
\lohi

I was expecting that they would all easily be defined using the 
\defineXMLgrouped [name] {command} element mapping. There is probably 
something very simple that I have not setup correctly since I am sure that 
this has been attempted before and would appreciate pointers as to where I 
am going wrong.

The following attempts at mapping element <u> to \underbar illustrates my 
problem which also seems largely applicable to the <strike>, <sub> and 
<sup> mapping: -

1.  This def of <u> does nothing ...
\defineXMLgrouped [u] \underbar

2.  This def of <u> also does nothing ...
\defineXMLgrouped [u] {\groupedcommand{\underbar}{}}

3. This def of <u> underlines the 1st character only ...
\defineXMLenvironment [u] {\bgroup\underbar} {\egroup}

4. In the mailing list, there is a suggestion that  \underbar does not 
allow line-breaking, so I also tried the following.  This def of <u> 
"works" partially, in that it does underline, however it causes havoc with 
alignment - everything seems to shift over to the right about 4cm ...

\defineXMLenvironment [u] \startul \stopul
\definetextbackground[ul]
  [location=text,alternative=1,background=,frame=off]

\definestartstop[ul]
    [before={\starttextbackground[ul] },
        after={\stoptextbackground\ }]


Below is a sample  .tex file that I have been playing with: -

\usemodule        [contml]
\autoXMLnamespace [context]

% Attempts at defining a mapping for <u>: -
% This def of <u> does nothing ...
%\defineXMLgrouped [u] \underbar
% This def of <u> does nothing ...
%\defineXMLgrouped [u] {\groupedcommand{\underbar}{}}
% This def of <u> underlines the 1st character only ...
%\defineXMLenvironment [u] {\bgroup\underbar} {\egroup}
%
% This def of <u> "works" partially, in that it does underline, however it
% causes havoc with alignment - everything seems to shift over to the 
right
% about 4cm ...

\defineXMLenvironment [u] \startul \stopul
\definetextbackground[ul]
  [location=text,alternative=1,background=,frame=off]

\definestartstop[ul]
    [before={\starttextbackground[ul] },
    %    after={\stoptextbackground\fixedspaces}]
        after={\stoptextbackground\ }]

% Other mappings
\defineXMLgrouped [right]  \rightaligned
\defineXMLgrouped [centre] \midaligned
\defineXMLgrouped [em] \em
\defineXMLsingular [br] [nr=1]
    {\blank[\XMLop{nr}*medium]}

\showstruts \showframe

\starttext

start of 'normal' \CONTEXT\ text

\underbar{This} is {\em left} aligned
\blank[medium]
\rightaligned{\underbar{This} is {\em right} aligned}
\blank[medium]
\midaligned{\underbar{This} is {\em centre} aligned}

end of 'normal' \CONTEXT\ text - starting xml ...

\startXMLdata

<p>This is <em>left</em> aligned</p>

<p><centre><u>This</u> is <em>centre</em> aligned</centre></p>

<p><centre>This is <em>centre</em> aligned</centre></p>

<p><right>This is <em>right</em> aligned</right></p>

\stopXMLdata
\blank[medium]
finished xml - back in 'normal' \CONTEXT\ text
\stoptext



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