From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/31507 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?B?TWF0dGhpYXMgV8OkY2h0ZXI=?= Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: bib and bibltx problems Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:37:43 +0200 Message-ID: <453DFB07.20103@tttech.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070308040100070304010302" X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1161690094 1392 80.91.229.2 (24 Oct 2006 11:41:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 11:41:34 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Oct 24 13:41:28 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GcKen-0002q7-DF for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:41:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D64921FE7E; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:41:19 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 21531-04; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:41:19 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E400A1FE4B; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:37:50 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A56A1FE51 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:37:49 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 21446-04-2 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:37:45 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from tttprime.vie.at.tttech.ttt (mail.tttech.com [195.230.58.11]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E8011FE44 for ; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:37:45 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ttthornet.vie.at.tttech.ttt ([10.100.20.137]) by tttprime.vie.at.tttech.ttt with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1GcKbI-0001ny-E4; Tue, 24 Oct 2006 13:37:44 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users , Taco Hoekwater X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:31507 Archived-At: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070308040100070304010302 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Taco, I ran into the following problems: 1. see attached files. Three bib entries with different authors, but the resulting references are the same for two of them (!). Appearantly, without sorting the bib entries, the extra label numbering does not work correctly. Changing \setupbibtex to "sort=short" fixes the issue (appending "a" and "b") as well does changing "ITERATE {presort.none}" to "ITERATE {presort.clabel}" in cont-no.bst. But is this a once-and-for-all fix? 2. see attached files. In \setuppublications, numbering is given as "short", but the resulting list of references is only as good as "yes" - I only get the numbers, not the short references in the list. Hmmm, what's the cause for this? Any ideas? Or is it My Fault(TM)? 3. In general: If I'd use bib handwriting \{start,stop}publication without bibltx, would I have to care about the uniqueness of the "short" document names (the "s=" option to \startpublication)? Really? Considering hundreds of possible bibliography entries, this would double the effort: Not only the key (the "k=" option) but also the short name must be unique for correct references. 4. Sometimes, the build process ("texexec --pdf test") breaks after changing some text in the bibliography. Appearantly, sometimes the .bbl file is not updated. removing the .bbl file fixes the build. No recipy available, sorry. 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