From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/31953 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: unic-xxx.tex glyph lists: minor bugs, questions Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 10:56:03 +0100 Message-ID: <45657033.4010304@wxs.nl> References: Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1164275789 29508 80.91.229.2 (23 Nov 2006 09:56:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 09:56:29 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Nov 23 10:56:28 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GnBJZ-0001Fo-RM for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 10:56:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C441FEF1; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 10:55:05 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 15287-08-8; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 10:54:57 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DC361FD71; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 10:54:57 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 167191FCD9 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 10:54:55 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 15287-08-7 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 10:54:53 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail.pragma-ade.net (dsl-083-247-100-017.solcon.nl [83.247.100.17]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 3F2051FC71 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 10:54:53 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from [10.100.1.104] (unverified [10.100.1.104]) by controller-1 (SurgeMail 3.7b8) with ESMTP id 19750 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2006 10:56:04 +0100 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (Windows/20061025) Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com r=-274017400 X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-1 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:31953 Archived-At: Sanjoy Mahajan wrote: >>> I'll experiment, especially if I can figure out a set of magic >>> kpathsea paths to keep mkii and mkiv in parallel. >>> > > >> no need for that ; it is made to run in parallel, just an extra zip >> with mkiv and lua files ending up in base, and luatools.lua ending >> up in the script path; also, mkiv does not use kpse -) >> > > Great. When the mkiv zip is available, I'll try it (tried poking > around the pragma site but didn't find it). No kpse is indeed good > news! > i will put it there as soon as tex live is really frozen since we don't want a mess up now > About backward compatability, maybe the mkiv transition is the time to > sacrifice backward compatability in a few instances where it makes the > code or user interface simpler? One example off the top of my head is > \setuppapersize[ABC] becoming equivalent to \setuppapersize[ABC][ABC] > (rather than to \setuppapersize[ABC][A4]), and there are no doubt > others. Or is the (understandable) policy of ConTeXt development that > backward compatability is paramount? > i've always tried to be downward compatible, but some changes are less dangerous (like the setuppapersize proposal) however, such changes then would also affect mkii (typesetting part mostly the same); another issue is that i want to move towards a 'macro package building block' approach so that one can combine components to make specialized versions anyhow, you can collect UI issues and organize a poll on the wiki Hans -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------