From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/32031 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Taco Hoekwater Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: \startquotation, \cite and footnotes Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:51:38 +0100 Message-ID: <4573EFAA.1050805@elvenkind.com> References: <17B80BB1-3B68-4315-9BAF-57B1AFC7935D@mpq.mpg.de> <4572DBCC.3090100@elvenkind.com> <0639BEE2-F1DF-4CDB-A759-AC63768F13D3@mpq.mpg.de> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1165225916 6984 80.91.229.2 (4 Dec 2006 09:51:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 09:51:56 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Dec 04 10:51:54 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GrAUL-0006Bb-UG for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:51:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F8161FDCA; Mon, 4 Dec 2006 10:49:24 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 04466-01-15; Mon, 4 Dec 2006 10:49:17 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F8081FD83; Mon, 4 Dec 2006 10:49:17 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3282D1FD8A for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2006 10:49:15 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 04466-01-14 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2006 10:49:10 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from lochside.elvenkind.com (elvenknd.xs4all.nl [213.84.171.68]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 5811A1FD7E for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2006 10:49:10 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lochside.elvenkind.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 446A357922 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2006 10:51:39 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from lochside.elvenkind.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (glenfiddich.elvenkind.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 00769-03 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2006 10:51:39 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from [10.10.0.6] (glenlivet.elvenkind.com [10.10.0.6]) by lochside.elvenkind.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE42578C0 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2006 10:51:38 +0100 (CET) User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6-7.1.20060mdk (X11/20050322) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: <0639BEE2-F1DF-4CDB-A759-AC63768F13D3@mpq.mpg.de> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at elvenkind.net X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:32031 Archived-At: Oliver Buerschaper wrote: >> >>There is no other way. If you strangeness as a result from this, >>then it is a bug in the footnote handling that is (should be) >>unrelated to the bibliography module. > > Ok. As for the strange things happening I was able to hunt them down > and prepare a simple example (still with the standard \startquotation): We are looking into this. All footnotes in vertical mode are behaving oddly. > >>>2. When typesetting a quotation block I'd like to add a reference >>>directly after the closing quotation marks. However, including the >>>\cite command before \stopquotation places the reference before the >>>closing marks, and moving \cite out of the \start \stop block makes >>>the reference appear on a new line ... >> >>The next solution is a bit rude, but works: ... > > I tried that one but ran into several problems unfortunately. If > \cite inserts anything but a tiny string these words won't be wrapped > properly onto a new line. Also if I replace \cite[#1] by \footnote > {\cite[#1]} then there will be no footnote at all :-( The missing linebreak is probably realted to the problem as in the other thread, so you just have to wait a little bit longer, until that is fixed for this problem to magically go away as well. The disappearing footnote may be unfixable within \startquotation. It would be easier to define your own start-stop pair for this, because \startquotation ... \stopquotation doesn't actually support tacking on stuff at the end. Try this instead: \long\def\startcitedquotation[#1]#2\stopcitedquotation {\bgroup \par \startnarrower \symbol[leftquotation]% #2\removeunwantedspaces \symbol[rightquotation]% \cite[#1] \stopnarrower \par \egroup} Greetings, Taco