From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/32231 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Taco Hoekwater Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context,gmane.linux.debian.devel.tetex Subject: Re: License stuff for ConTeXt Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:46:56 +0100 Message-ID: <458BEFE0.8030308@elvenkind.com> References: <20061219180411.GC10246@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> <20061222100720.GK9611@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> <86r6usnrze.fsf@alhambra.kuesterei.ch> <20061222134613.GB30116@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: dough.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1166798841 21784 80.91.229.10 (22 Dec 2006 14:47:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:47:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users , Hans Hagen , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Frank_K=FCster?= , debian-tex-maint@lists.debian.org Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Dec 22 15:47:17 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by dough.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Gxlg1-0005wS-ST for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:47:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44F4B20005; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:45:57 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 06846-08-6; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:45:50 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 642771FF19; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:45:50 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCEB41FF4A for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:45:48 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 06846-08-5 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:45:42 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from lochside.elvenkind.com (elvenknd.xs4all.nl [213.84.171.68]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id C1D5C1FEF0 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:45:42 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lochside.elvenkind.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 807D45EC2D; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:46:58 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from lochside.elvenkind.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (glenfiddich.elvenkind.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08256-06; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:46:58 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from [10.10.0.6] (glenlivet.elvenkind.com [10.10.0.6]) by lochside.elvenkind.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 248755E96A; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:46:58 +0100 (CET) User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6-7.1.20060mdk (X11/20050322) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Original-To: Norbert Preining In-Reply-To: <20061222134613.GB30116@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at elvenkind.net X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:32231 gmane.linux.debian.devel.tetex:19953 Archived-At: Hi Norbert, I had to go through this for TeXLive proper as well. Can't you just ask Karl Berry cq. do what TexLive does (since it claims to be Debian-compatible)? Anyway, here is my list of remarks. I apologise beforehand if I sound a bit unfriendly here or there, I do not completely agree with DFSG (especially where it comes to requiring sources for documentation) and that tends to show through in my prose. Also, I am becoming worn out. > First cont-img.zip: All images in cont-img are GPLv2. > cont-fnt contains a huge bunch of vf/afm/tfm/map files. I assume that > they were generated from some fontinst source, but this is missing. No, they were not, and there is no "missing source". The vf/tfm/map were generated using the texfont program, which does not use source files. The afms were created using ttf2afm, which uses ttfs as source. > Anyway, there is no accompanying readme or whatsoever besides the one > for lucida. All the files in cont-fnt are GPLv2. > cont-ext seems to be ok besides a few points: > t-lettrine.tex does not have a license statement Yes, it does. Top of file. PD. Perhaps you missed another then? > t-urwgaramond, type-urwgaramond, Peter, can you add the license statement and re-upload? (it is GPL, according to Peter's own license statement on the contextgarden page for this module) > type-urwgothic: no license statement PD, but I forgot to add the statement, sorry. > A different thing is that the sources of many doc are not included: All the demo and doc files are generated by running texexec in "module" resp. "demo" mode on the actual macro sources, so the source is already included (just like .dtx files are the source of many latex packages' documentation) > Best would actually be to put a files MANIFEST.GPL, MANIFEST.PD, > MANIFEST.CC-plus-ND into all the zip files. This way we could just > forget about all this and ONLY if you add a file you have to update the > MANIFEST.*. > Does this sound reasonable? Sure, but only if you can promise this *will be* the end of it. Otherwise, it only adds even more of a hassle (it seems whatever we do, it is never quite enough). > I attach the MANFIEST.$zipfile to these email where I added some > comments. > ./doc/context/third/bnf/t-bnf.pdf NOSOURCE Not so, because: > ./tex/context/third/bnf/t-bnf.tex this is the source. > ./doc/context/third/lettrine/W.pdf source missing It is an image. If it would make you feel better, I can convert it to png format, but then I would have to include the pdf as the source of the png, wouldn't I? ;-) > ./doc/context/document/general/manuals/tiptrick.pdf NOSOURCE Do you prefer to have no file at all? Or is NOSOURCE better than nothing? Consider that if these PDF documents were created using InDesign, there would not even exist a source, anywhere. From the entire list of pdfs, I believe this is the only one that really does not have a source included where there could reasonably be expected to be a source avaible somewhere. > CC-plus-ND the following: > ./doc/fonts/hoekwater/koeieletters/koeieletters.rme "Anything starting with koei" -> CC-ND is correct (like you said in another message). There was one in this list by mistake: > ./fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-adobe-euro.map that should be GPL. Best, Taco