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From: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>
Cc: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" <ntg-context@ntg.nl>,
	"Frank Küster" <frank@kuesterei.ch>,
	"Taco Hoekwater" <taco@elvenkind.com>,
	debian-tex-maint@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: License stuff for ConTeXt
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 18:05:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <458C105C.5080601@wxs.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061222160052.GA13848@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at>

Norbert Preining wrote:
>
> .... if I, too, don't agree about the documentation stuff. In fact I
> agree half-way: I want to have the source code, even if some commercial
> fonts are missing etc and would still consider this DFSG free. In fact I
> started a discussion about it some time ago, since I believe it is
> better to have (as an example):
> 	fontinstallationguide.tex
> 	fontinstallationguide.pdf
> where the pdf contains some commercial fonts. The user still has the
> source code, can do anything with it, AND has a
> beautiful/readable/whatever document for printing.
>
> I am often missing some "common sense" in these discussion, but OTOH I
> understand that on the larger scale of a whole distribution this is
> something a bit more complicated.
>
>   
When we have time, we put manual source code in the public svn repos at 
one of our company servers which are mirrored by taco; one problem is 
that i often use commercial fonts (ones i recently had to use in 
projects) in order to get away from this 'yet another tex look'. 
Sometimes i can define fallbacks but not always. The same is true for 
some graphics (one reason for not putting all mp code i write online is 
that i don't want them to be ripped off simply because they are part of 
the context look and feel); this means that the all-source-available 
principle cannot be met and therefore they will not be redistributed 
which is a pitty for users

I hope that you manage to get that discussions rolling, since it's a 
pitty that manuals are that restricted. I also wonder if it means that 
'a source should be processable'. Btw, what is the source of an html 
page (or makes the fact that it's readable it a source); i'm pretty sure 
that much in the open source domain contains generated docs with the 
real source missing (say an xml file and an xslt script)

Hans  

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-12-22 17:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-19 18:04 new debian context, upload to Debian Norbert Preining
2006-12-20  8:22 ` Taco Hoekwater
2006-12-20 12:53   ` Norbert Preining
2006-12-20 13:22     ` Taco Hoekwater
2006-12-20 14:19       ` [NTG-context] " Frank Küster
2006-12-20 14:58       ` Norbert Preining
2006-12-20 23:19         ` Hans Hagen
2006-12-20 15:01       ` [NTG-context] " Norbert Preining
2006-12-20 23:15         ` Hans Hagen
2006-12-22  9:45       ` [NTG-context] " Norbert Preining
2006-12-22 10:03         ` Taco Hoekwater
2006-12-22 10:10           ` [NTG-context] " Norbert Preining
2006-12-22 10:07 ` new debian context 2006.12.21-0.1 Norbert Preining
2006-12-22 10:12   ` Norbert Preining
2006-12-22 10:29   ` Frank Küster
2006-12-22 10:50     ` Mike Bird
2006-12-22 13:46     ` License stuff for ConTeXt Norbert Preining
2006-12-22 14:37       ` Mojca Miklavec
2006-12-22 17:25         ` Hans Hagen
2006-12-22 14:46       ` Taco Hoekwater
2006-12-22 16:00         ` Norbert Preining
2006-12-22 17:05           ` Hans Hagen [this message]
2006-12-22 21:50           ` Taco Hoekwater
2006-12-22 16:58         ` Hans Hagen
2006-12-22 15:42     ` new debian context 2006.12.21-0.1 luigi scarso
2006-12-22 16:03     ` Aditya Mahajan
2006-12-22 16:18       ` [NTG-context] " Norbert Preining
2006-12-22 18:39         ` Mike Bird
2006-12-22 19:19           ` Sanjoy Mahajan
2006-12-22 21:33             ` [NTG-context] " Aditya Mahajan
2006-12-23 10:25               ` Norbert Preining
2006-12-23 16:31               ` Sanjoy Mahajan
2006-12-23 17:09                 ` Idris Samawi Hamid
2006-12-23 23:21                   ` Sanjoy Mahajan
2006-12-24  9:40                     ` Hans van der Meer
2006-12-24 15:11                       ` Douglas Philips
2006-12-24 21:02                       ` Sanjoy Mahajan
2006-12-26 21:59                       ` Hans Hagen
2006-12-22 14:51   ` Sanjoy Mahajan
2006-12-22 16:33     ` [NTG-context] " Norbert Preining

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