* ConTeXt, hyphenation
@ 2007-01-03 7:24 Rolf Marvin Bøe Lindgren
2007-01-03 8:22 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Rolf Marvin Bøe Lindgren @ 2007-01-03 7:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
I've upgraded to the most recent version of ConTeXt now. I try to
set Norwegian hyphenation by saying
\language[no]
\setuplanguage[no]
however, as opposed to in the previous version, there are no
hyphenations at all. I wonder if it is to do with the pattern file
used – how do I set that? and how can I make sure that the correct
patterns are used?
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* Re: ConTeXt, hyphenation
2007-01-03 7:24 ConTeXt, hyphenation Rolf Marvin Bøe Lindgren
@ 2007-01-03 8:22 ` Hans Hagen
2007-01-03 8:41 ` Taco Hoekwater
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2007-01-03 8:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
� wrote:
> I've upgraded to the most recent version of ConTeXt now. I try to
> set Norwegian hyphenation by saying
>
> \language[no]
> \setuplanguage[no]
>
> however, as opposed to in the previous version, there are no
> hyphenations at all. I wonder if it is to do with the pattern file
> used � how do I set that? and how can I make sure that the correct
> patterns are used?
>
>
>
There should be (in the latest) zip
2,392 lang-no.hyp
215,824 lang-no.pat
I found out that the norwegian pattern files went from
nohyph.tex -> nohyph1.tex -> nohyph2.tex -> nohyphb.tex -> nohyphbx.tex
and we can only guess what name we will have next; no bigger mess than
pattern mess.
Hans
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* Re: ConTeXt, hyphenation
2007-01-03 8:22 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2007-01-03 8:41 ` Taco Hoekwater
2007-01-03 10:50 ` Rolf Marvin Bøe Lindgren
2007-01-03 12:20 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2007-01-03 8:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hans Hagen wrote:
> � wrote:
>
>>I've upgraded to the most recent version of ConTeXt now. I try to
>>set Norwegian hyphenation by saying
>>
>>\language[no]
>>\setuplanguage[no]
>>
>>however, as opposed to in the previous version, there are no
>>hyphenations at all. I wonder if it is to do with the pattern file
>>used � how do I set that? and how can I make sure that the correct
>>patterns are used?
>>
>
Did you uncomment this line in cont-usr.tex:
% \installlanguage [\s!no] [\c!state=\v!start] % norwegian
?
Best, Taco
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* Re: ConTeXt, hyphenation
2007-01-03 8:41 ` Taco Hoekwater
@ 2007-01-03 10:50 ` Rolf Marvin Bøe Lindgren
2007-01-03 12:16 ` Hans Hagen
2007-01-03 12:20 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Rolf Marvin Bøe Lindgren @ 2007-01-03 10:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
On 3. jan. 2007, at 9:41, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>
> Did you uncomment this line in cont-usr.tex:
>
> % \installlanguage [\s!no] [\c!state=\v!start] % norwegian
>
> ?
yes.
I've tried with showhyphens, and it seems that certain tricky words
are hyphenated correctly. however, ConTeXt no longer hyphenates
“psykolog”, and “psykometriker” is hyphenated as psykometrik-er.
I use
\installlanguage
[no]
[spacing=broad,
leftsentence=,
rightsentence=,
leftsubsentence=,
rightsubsentence=,
leftquote=\leftguillemot,
rightquote=\rightguillemot,
leftquotation=\leftguillemot,
rightquotation=\rightguillemot,
date={month,\ ,day,{,\ },year},
default=no,
state=stop]
\language[no]
\setuplanguage[no]
and get the error message
systems : system commands are disabled
(/usr/local/gwTeX/texmf.local/tex/context/user/cont-roffe.tex
language : patterns for no not loaded
check : missing or ungrouped '=' after 'no' in line 25
(@@lano)
Line 25 is the first line after \setuplanguage[no]
Is this in any way significant?
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* Re: ConTeXt, hyphenation
2007-01-03 10:50 ` Rolf Marvin Bøe Lindgren
@ 2007-01-03 12:16 ` Hans Hagen
2007-01-03 12:59 ` Rolf Marvin Bøe Lindgren
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2007-01-03 12:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
� wrote:
> On 3. jan. 2007, at 9:41, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>
>
>> Did you uncomment this line in cont-usr.tex:
>>
>> % \installlanguage [\s!no] [\c!state=\v!start] % norwegian
>>
>> ?
>>
>
> yes.
>
> I've tried with showhyphens, and it seems that certain tricky words
> are hyphenated correctly. however, ConTeXt no longer hyphenates
> �psykolog�, and �psykometriker� is hyphenated as psykometrik-er.
>
that's why i asked ... what encoding are those files in (i assume ec but if not, we need to correct for that (grep ctxtools for 'no'))
Hans
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* Re: ConTeXt, hyphenation
2007-01-03 8:41 ` Taco Hoekwater
2007-01-03 10:50 ` Rolf Marvin Bøe Lindgren
@ 2007-01-03 12:20 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2007-01-03 12:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>> � wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I've upgraded to the most recent version of ConTeXt now. I try to
>>> set Norwegian hyphenation by saying
>>>
>>> \language[no]
>>> \setuplanguage[no]
>>>
>>> however, as opposed to in the previous version, there are no
>>> hyphenations at all. I wonder if it is to do with the pattern file
>>> used � how do I set that? and how can I make sure that the correct
>>> patterns are used?
>>>
>>>
>
> Did you uncomment this line in cont-usr.tex:
>
> % \installlanguage [\s!no] [\c!state=\v!start] % norwegian
>
>
with --all this is not needed
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* Re: ConTeXt, hyphenation
2007-01-03 12:16 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2007-01-03 12:59 ` Rolf Marvin Bøe Lindgren
2007-01-03 13:32 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Rolf Marvin Bøe Lindgren @ 2007-01-03 12:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
On 3. jan. 2007, at 1:16, Hans Hagen wrote:
> that's why i asked ... what encoding are those files in (i assume
> ec but if not, we need to correct for that (grep ctxtools for 'no'))
oh. the documents are utf-8, whereas the font encoding I use is
texnansi.
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* Re: ConTeXt, hyphenation
2007-01-03 12:59 ` Rolf Marvin Bøe Lindgren
@ 2007-01-03 13:32 ` Hans Hagen
2007-01-03 14:22 ` Rolf Marvin Bøe Lindgren
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2007-01-03 13:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
� wrote:
> On 3. jan. 2007, at 1:16, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>
>> that's why i asked ... what encoding are those files in (i assume
>> ec but if not, we need to correct for that (grep ctxtools for 'no'))
>>
>
> oh. the documents are utf-8, whereas the font encoding I use is
> texnansi.
>
>
input encoding and font encoding are indepedent
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* Re: ConTeXt, hyphenation
2007-01-03 13:32 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2007-01-03 14:22 ` Rolf Marvin Bøe Lindgren
2007-01-03 15:15 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Rolf Marvin Bøe Lindgren @ 2007-01-03 14:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
On 3. jan. 2007, at 2:32, Hans Hagen wrote:
> � wrote:
>> On 3. jan. 2007, at 1:16, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>
>>
>>> that's why i asked ... what encoding are those files in (i assume
>>> ec but if not, we need to correct for that (grep ctxtools for 'no'))
>>>
>>
>> oh. the documents are utf-8, whereas the font encoding I use is
>> texnansi.
>>
>>
>
> input encoding and font encoding are indepedent
I would know, being the one who talked Tom Rokicki into adding
support for font encoding vectors to dvips.
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* Re: ConTeXt, hyphenation
2007-01-03 14:22 ` Rolf Marvin Bøe Lindgren
@ 2007-01-03 15:15 ` Hans Hagen
2007-01-03 18:03 ` Mojca Miklavec
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2007-01-03 15:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
� wrote:
> On 3. jan. 2007, at 2:32, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>
>> � wrote:
>>
>>> On 3. jan. 2007, at 1:16, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> that's why i asked ... what encoding are those files in (i assume
>>>> ec but if not, we need to correct for that (grep ctxtools for 'no'))
>>>>
>>>>
>>> oh. the documents are utf-8, whereas the font encoding I use is
>>> texnansi.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> input encoding and font encoding are indepedent
>>
>
> I would know, being the one who talked Tom Rokicki into adding
> support for font encoding vectors to dvips.
>
>
the hyphenation files that context uses are either in a neutral (verbose
format) or in utf format (standard now) so the question is ... what
encoding are the original nohyph* files in
Hans
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* Re: ConTeXt, hyphenation
2007-01-03 15:15 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2007-01-03 18:03 ` Mojca Miklavec
2007-01-03 18:59 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2007-01-03 18:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
On 1/3/07, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
>
> the hyphenation files that context uses are either in a neutral (verbose
> format) or in utf format (standard now) so the question is ... what
> encoding are the original nohyph* files in
I don't know anything about the language itself, but it seems to me
that the encoding doesn't matter. All the special letters used in that
file are the same in both ec and texnansi (from the first sight).
Mojca
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* Re: ConTeXt, hyphenation
2007-01-03 18:03 ` Mojca Miklavec
@ 2007-01-03 18:59 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2007-01-03 18:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> On 1/3/07, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
>
>> the hyphenation files that context uses are either in a neutral (verbose
>> format) or in utf format (standard now) so the question is ... what
>> encoding are the original nohyph* files in
>>
>
> I don't know anything about the language itself, but it seems to me
> that the encoding doesn't matter. All the special letters used in that
> file are the same in both ec and texnansi (from the first sight).
>
>
in that case
ctxtools --pat --utf no
should generate the right ones
Hans
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