* ConTeXt, hyphenation @ 2007-01-03 7:24 Rolf Marvin Bøe Lindgren 2007-01-03 8:22 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Rolf Marvin Bøe Lindgren @ 2007-01-03 7:24 UTC (permalink / raw) I've upgraded to the most recent version of ConTeXt now. I try to set Norwegian hyphenation by saying \language[no] \setuplanguage[no] however, as opposed to in the previous version, there are no hyphenations at all. I wonder if it is to do with the pattern file used – how do I set that? and how can I make sure that the correct patterns are used? -- Rolf Lindgren roffe@extern.uio.no ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: ConTeXt, hyphenation 2007-01-03 7:24 ConTeXt, hyphenation Rolf Marvin Bøe Lindgren @ 2007-01-03 8:22 ` Hans Hagen 2007-01-03 8:41 ` Taco Hoekwater 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2007-01-03 8:22 UTC (permalink / raw) � wrote: > I've upgraded to the most recent version of ConTeXt now. I try to > set Norwegian hyphenation by saying > > \language[no] > \setuplanguage[no] > > however, as opposed to in the previous version, there are no > hyphenations at all. I wonder if it is to do with the pattern file > used � how do I set that? and how can I make sure that the correct > patterns are used? > > > There should be (in the latest) zip 2,392 lang-no.hyp 215,824 lang-no.pat I found out that the norwegian pattern files went from nohyph.tex -> nohyph1.tex -> nohyph2.tex -> nohyphb.tex -> nohyphbx.tex and we can only guess what name we will have next; no bigger mess than pattern mess. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: ConTeXt, hyphenation 2007-01-03 8:22 ` Hans Hagen @ 2007-01-03 8:41 ` Taco Hoekwater 2007-01-03 10:50 ` Rolf Marvin Bøe Lindgren 2007-01-03 12:20 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2007-01-03 8:41 UTC (permalink / raw) Hans Hagen wrote: > � wrote: > >>I've upgraded to the most recent version of ConTeXt now. I try to >>set Norwegian hyphenation by saying >> >>\language[no] >>\setuplanguage[no] >> >>however, as opposed to in the previous version, there are no >>hyphenations at all. I wonder if it is to do with the pattern file >>used � how do I set that? and how can I make sure that the correct >>patterns are used? >> > Did you uncomment this line in cont-usr.tex: % \installlanguage [\s!no] [\c!state=\v!start] % norwegian ? Best, Taco _______________________________________________ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: ConTeXt, hyphenation 2007-01-03 8:41 ` Taco Hoekwater @ 2007-01-03 10:50 ` Rolf Marvin Bøe Lindgren 2007-01-03 12:16 ` Hans Hagen 2007-01-03 12:20 ` Hans Hagen 1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Rolf Marvin Bøe Lindgren @ 2007-01-03 10:50 UTC (permalink / raw) On 3. jan. 2007, at 9:41, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > > Did you uncomment this line in cont-usr.tex: > > % \installlanguage [\s!no] [\c!state=\v!start] % norwegian > > ? yes. I've tried with showhyphens, and it seems that certain tricky words are hyphenated correctly. however, ConTeXt no longer hyphenates “psykolog”, and “psykometriker” is hyphenated as psykometrik-er. I use \installlanguage [no] [spacing=broad, leftsentence=, rightsentence=, leftsubsentence=, rightsubsentence=, leftquote=\leftguillemot, rightquote=\rightguillemot, leftquotation=\leftguillemot, rightquotation=\rightguillemot, date={month,\ ,day,{,\ },year}, default=no, state=stop] \language[no] \setuplanguage[no] and get the error message systems : system commands are disabled (/usr/local/gwTeX/texmf.local/tex/context/user/cont-roffe.tex language : patterns for no not loaded check : missing or ungrouped '=' after 'no' in line 25 (@@lano) Line 25 is the first line after \setuplanguage[no] Is this in any way significant? -- Rolf Lindgren roffe@extern.uio.no ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: ConTeXt, hyphenation 2007-01-03 10:50 ` Rolf Marvin Bøe Lindgren @ 2007-01-03 12:16 ` Hans Hagen 2007-01-03 12:59 ` Rolf Marvin Bøe Lindgren 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2007-01-03 12:16 UTC (permalink / raw) � wrote: > On 3. jan. 2007, at 9:41, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > > >> Did you uncomment this line in cont-usr.tex: >> >> % \installlanguage [\s!no] [\c!state=\v!start] % norwegian >> >> ? >> > > yes. > > I've tried with showhyphens, and it seems that certain tricky words > are hyphenated correctly. however, ConTeXt no longer hyphenates > �psykolog�, and �psykometriker� is hyphenated as psykometrik-er. > that's why i asked ... what encoding are those files in (i assume ec but if not, we need to correct for that (grep ctxtools for 'no')) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: ConTeXt, hyphenation 2007-01-03 12:16 ` Hans Hagen @ 2007-01-03 12:59 ` Rolf Marvin Bøe Lindgren 2007-01-03 13:32 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Rolf Marvin Bøe Lindgren @ 2007-01-03 12:59 UTC (permalink / raw) On 3. jan. 2007, at 1:16, Hans Hagen wrote: > that's why i asked ... what encoding are those files in (i assume > ec but if not, we need to correct for that (grep ctxtools for 'no')) oh. the documents are utf-8, whereas the font encoding I use is texnansi. -- Rolf Lindgren roffe@extern.uio.no ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: ConTeXt, hyphenation 2007-01-03 12:59 ` Rolf Marvin Bøe Lindgren @ 2007-01-03 13:32 ` Hans Hagen 2007-01-03 14:22 ` Rolf Marvin Bøe Lindgren 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2007-01-03 13:32 UTC (permalink / raw) � wrote: > On 3. jan. 2007, at 1:16, Hans Hagen wrote: > > >> that's why i asked ... what encoding are those files in (i assume >> ec but if not, we need to correct for that (grep ctxtools for 'no')) >> > > oh. the documents are utf-8, whereas the font encoding I use is > texnansi. > > input encoding and font encoding are indepedent -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: ConTeXt, hyphenation 2007-01-03 13:32 ` Hans Hagen @ 2007-01-03 14:22 ` Rolf Marvin Bøe Lindgren 2007-01-03 15:15 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Rolf Marvin Bøe Lindgren @ 2007-01-03 14:22 UTC (permalink / raw) On 3. jan. 2007, at 2:32, Hans Hagen wrote: > � wrote: >> On 3. jan. 2007, at 1:16, Hans Hagen wrote: >> >> >>> that's why i asked ... what encoding are those files in (i assume >>> ec but if not, we need to correct for that (grep ctxtools for 'no')) >>> >> >> oh. the documents are utf-8, whereas the font encoding I use is >> texnansi. >> >> > > input encoding and font encoding are indepedent I would know, being the one who talked Tom Rokicki into adding support for font encoding vectors to dvips. -- Rolf Lindgren roffe@extern.uio.no _______________________________________________ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: ConTeXt, hyphenation 2007-01-03 14:22 ` Rolf Marvin Bøe Lindgren @ 2007-01-03 15:15 ` Hans Hagen 2007-01-03 18:03 ` Mojca Miklavec 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2007-01-03 15:15 UTC (permalink / raw) � wrote: > On 3. jan. 2007, at 2:32, Hans Hagen wrote: > > >> � wrote: >> >>> On 3. jan. 2007, at 1:16, Hans Hagen wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> that's why i asked ... what encoding are those files in (i assume >>>> ec but if not, we need to correct for that (grep ctxtools for 'no')) >>>> >>>> >>> oh. the documents are utf-8, whereas the font encoding I use is >>> texnansi. >>> >>> >>> >> input encoding and font encoding are indepedent >> > > I would know, being the one who talked Tom Rokicki into adding > support for font encoding vectors to dvips. > > the hyphenation files that context uses are either in a neutral (verbose format) or in utf format (standard now) so the question is ... what encoding are the original nohyph* files in Hans -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: ConTeXt, hyphenation 2007-01-03 15:15 ` Hans Hagen @ 2007-01-03 18:03 ` Mojca Miklavec 2007-01-03 18:59 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2007-01-03 18:03 UTC (permalink / raw) On 1/3/07, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote: > > the hyphenation files that context uses are either in a neutral (verbose > format) or in utf format (standard now) so the question is ... what > encoding are the original nohyph* files in I don't know anything about the language itself, but it seems to me that the encoding doesn't matter. All the special letters used in that file are the same in both ec and texnansi (from the first sight). Mojca ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: ConTeXt, hyphenation 2007-01-03 18:03 ` Mojca Miklavec @ 2007-01-03 18:59 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2007-01-03 18:59 UTC (permalink / raw) Mojca Miklavec wrote: > On 1/3/07, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote: > >> the hyphenation files that context uses are either in a neutral (verbose >> format) or in utf format (standard now) so the question is ... what >> encoding are the original nohyph* files in >> > > I don't know anything about the language itself, but it seems to me > that the encoding doesn't matter. All the special letters used in that > file are the same in both ec and texnansi (from the first sight). > > in that case ctxtools --pat --utf no should generate the right ones Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: ConTeXt, hyphenation 2007-01-03 8:41 ` Taco Hoekwater 2007-01-03 10:50 ` Rolf Marvin Bøe Lindgren @ 2007-01-03 12:20 ` Hans Hagen 1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2007-01-03 12:20 UTC (permalink / raw) Taco Hoekwater wrote: > Hans Hagen wrote: > >> � wrote: >> >> >>> I've upgraded to the most recent version of ConTeXt now. I try to >>> set Norwegian hyphenation by saying >>> >>> \language[no] >>> \setuplanguage[no] >>> >>> however, as opposed to in the previous version, there are no >>> hyphenations at all. I wonder if it is to do with the pattern file >>> used � how do I set that? and how can I make sure that the correct >>> patterns are used? >>> >>> > > Did you uncomment this line in cont-usr.tex: > > % \installlanguage [\s!no] [\c!state=\v!start] % norwegian > > with --all this is not needed ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
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