From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/34193 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: xetext-pdftex differences Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 19:22:39 +0200 Message-ID: <461D195F.8070500@wxs.nl> References: <20070408221618732639.581a6a4d@st.estfiles.de> <6faad9f00704101227u1fd43e52wf55050e5cc918374@mail.gmail.com> <20070411110917406329.47c0f948@st.estfiles.de> <6faad9f00704110844x377d61dao3f5cad8d433707cb@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1176312172 828 80.91.229.12 (11 Apr 2007 17:22:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 17:22:52 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Apr 11 19:22:39 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HbgWl-0007oo-9z for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 19:22:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 274471FDCA; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 19:22:38 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 09514-03; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 19:22:30 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A07D1FD9B; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 19:22:30 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B759D1FDA2 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 19:22:28 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 09481-06-4 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 19:22:27 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail.pragma-ade.net (dsl-083-247-100-017.solcon.nl [83.247.100.17]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD8C1FD9B for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 19:22:27 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [10.100.1.101] (unverified [10.100.1.101]) by controller-1 (SurgeMail 3.7b8) with ESMTP id 17778 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2007 19:22:27 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) In-Reply-To: <6faad9f00704110844x377d61dao3f5cad8d433707cb@mail.gmail.com> X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com r=-274017400 X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-1 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:34193 Archived-At: Mojca Miklavec wrote: > LuaTeX will probably support those old encodings, but you would want > to use "uc" (unicode) encoding for both engines, otherwise it makes no > sense to use XeTeX instead of pdfTeX at all. > luatex itself has still the pdftex machinery around, so you can use map files to handle things when you use for instance type one fonts. ttf and otf are supported as wide fonts, but of course one needs to make sure that the unicode to glyph mapping is ok in context mkiv i will intercept the encoding-prefixed fonts (texnansi-mojca-regular) so this is transparent for users by using some lua glue code but mainly because i read afm files instead of tfm files (so, texnansi-mojca will in fact use mojca.afm); non prefixed names will use the tfm file (this is pretty safe because the texnansi-* names were only there when proper afm files are also there; i mainly provide this features for existing typescripts) in general, encodings are not something to worry about not even uc as encoding is needed in mkiv > All of your questions mentioned here belong to the ConTeXt mailing > list (XeTeX mailing list is mostly for XeLaTeX and low-level XeTeX > discussions) since it's really about the ConTeXt user-interface. The > only thing you could ask for on the XeTeX list is the question of > supporting ec/texnansi-encoded fonts (I prefer to wait for luaTeX than > to bother about those "soon-to-become-obsolete" additions). > indeed, there is no need to mess up xetex with obsolete encoding stuff; luatex will still have much pdftex code around so there the penalty is less, but eventually users have to move on Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------