Re: \setupheadertexts \setupfootertexts

From: Hans Hagen <j.hagen@xs4all.nl>
To: Alan Braslau <braslau.list@comcast.net>,
	Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com>
Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: \setupheadertexts \setupfootertexts
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2019 00:31:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <461aed10-ff8b-2933-df8d-f884396aab1e@xs4all.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190802155949.468e6e40@poo.hsd1.co.comcast.net>

On 8/2/2019 11:59 PM, Alan Braslau wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Aug 2019 23:36:47 +0200
> Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>> we have a lot or areas ... and if you really want you can do this ...
>>>
>>> \setuplayouttext
>>>
>>> Has been there for ages ... (but I never use that method).
>>
>> I has the same question a few years ago but I never used it
>> because it has a few limitations like missing style/color support.
> 
> I am looking for a simple and obvious way of setting header and footer
> texts. The \setupheadertexts has limitations and I view this as
> historical, for ConTeXt commands have evolved over time usually towards
> better solutions, even if we leave in place for reasons of backward
> compatibility habits that can be hard to quit.
> 
> One example is \setuppapersize [page=letter,paper=letter]
> (sorry, and I *do* much prefer A4).
> This is, I believe, far superior to \setuppapersize [letter] [letter]
> 
> 
> Do you find that keys in \setupheader make sense? If so, what choice?
> (as we like to limit the proliferation of key names).
actually there is not really a \setupheader as these are shortcuts to a 
few kind of generic commands that set up properties of these areas (a 
matrix) on the one hand, and set the content with a different command

(also, this part of context is quite optimized deep down because 
checking 25 areas for all possible properties each page flush is costly, 
so it would be a major rewrite with little gain; it would also mean 
dropping \setuphead etc and using one command for everything ... not 
something i want to do in the middle of other transitions like 
mkiv->mkxl and such)

hans

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