From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/34266 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: The ConTeXt Companion Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 22:36:42 +0200 Message-ID: <46213B5A.1000009@wxs.nl> References: <46F27D63-3A0F-44A1-BE96-A7F975C832BD@ensta.fr> <83E3B53E-549B-4ABB-A661-34FBD35C49B4@jhnet.nl> <461F5E11.3070704@web.de> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1176583003 3264 80.91.229.12 (14 Apr 2007 20:36:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 20:36:43 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sat Apr 14 22:36:37 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Hcoz6-0002Mt-Lm for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 22:36:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D29B2006D; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 22:36:36 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08048-09; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 22:36:30 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB46C2006A; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 22:36:29 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B302006A for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 22:36:27 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08031-07-6 for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 22:36:27 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail.pragma-ade.net (dsl-083-247-100-017.solcon.nl [83.247.100.17]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E01DC20068 for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 22:36:26 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [10.100.1.102] (unverified [10.100.1.102]) by controller-1 (SurgeMail 3.7b8) with ESMTP id 18361 for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 22:36:26 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) In-Reply-To: X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com r=-274017400 X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-1 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:34266 Archived-At: Idris Samawi Hamid wrote: > On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 02:58:11 -0600, Patrick Gundlach > wrote: > > >> ... ConTeXt would probably stabilize, which IMHO is not a good thing. >> One thing I really love ConTeXt for is the speed new techniques are >> adopted (pdf features, luatex,...) One day we might have a ConTeXt >> MKII book for those who are afraid of swithing to pdftex2. >> > > Hmm, we had this discussion in Epen... > > I think that enough of the high-level interface is stable enough that a > thorough ConTeXt book will be useful, particularly after luaTeX/pdfTeX2. I > recall a particular someone at Epen volunteering to set up a working > committee on this, even to write the book himself if no one volunteers to > help soon... > :D :D :D > > As for MKII/pdfTeX1, it makes no sense making a book for a stalled branch; > pdfTeX1 will go the way of the original TeX engine. Who today will write a > book for those who only want to use the dvi format? > hey, it's not that bad ... functionality will not change but mkiv - will have less to no input encoding and font encoding mess to be explained - font installation wil be easier due to lack of encodings - some functionality will be more robust due to node postprocessing (hidden for user) - some new stuff (for idris -) So ... apart from some chapters, much mkii/mkiv descriptions are the same Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl -----------------------------------------------------------------