From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/35711 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Rolf Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Background image Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 22:11:57 +0200 Message-ID: <46B7808D.1050603@gmx.net> References: <1186331269.12049.6.camel@carnifex> <46B6FFAE.9070408@gmx.net> <1186417389.5981.8.camel@carnifex> <46B75EAC.3030706@gmx.net> <1186424851.23711.8.camel@carnifex> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1186431193 21954 80.91.229.12 (6 Aug 2007 20:13:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 20:13:13 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Aug 06 22:13:10 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1II8wu-0006rr-Sj for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Aug 2007 22:13:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B781FE26; Mon, 6 Aug 2007 22:12:15 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 05594-04-23; Mon, 6 Aug 2007 22:12:08 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F2D91FD7D; Mon, 6 Aug 2007 22:12:07 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 043F51FCA2 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2007 22:12:03 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 05594-04-18 for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2007 22:11:54 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id EA6471FBAC for ; Mon, 6 Aug 2007 22:11:53 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 06 Aug 2007 20:11:53 -0000 Original-Received: from i577B9EEF.versanet.de (EHLO [192.168.1.3]) [87.123.158.239] by mail.gmx.net (mp041) with SMTP; 06 Aug 2007 22:11:53 +0200 X-Authenticated: #24293357 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18LkBQEvKQLrMdVGB0NygY38nhZ8RTr4pfvM7NeLg 0e19/GBK2V8jPL User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) In-Reply-To: <1186424851.23711.8.camel@carnifex> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.3 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:35711 Archived-At: Pascal de Bruijn schrieb: > On Mon, 2007-08-06 at 19:47 +0200, Peter Rolf wrote: >> Pascal de Bruijn schrieb: >>> Hi, >>> On Mon, 2007-08-06 at 13:02 +0200, Peter Rolf wrote: >>>> BTW: do you set a bleed|crop-box? >>> No clue? How do I do that? What does it do? >>> >> It simply defines the size and position of these boxes (which then >> become part of the document). In your case any(?) print shop then knows >> where to crop, even without any crop marks. >> See also >> >> http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/technotes/pdfboxes.pdf >> >> and (only german; sorry, couldn't find it on the english wiki) >> >> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_Document_Format#Angaben_der_Seitengeometrie >> >>> Basically Lulu will print a 9.25"x6.25" image onto their paper. Then a >>> centered 9"x6" page will be cut from that. This way full bleed print is >>> achieved. >>> >> if they don't use them, you don't need them :) >> > > I can understand some basic German. I only live a couple of yards from > the border. > > I guess my settings would be like this: > > Mediabox : 9.25" x 6.25" is set by pdftex, so don't ever change this one! > Cropbox : 9.25" x 6.25" or cropbox=trimbox the cropbox sets the output size on the screen (what is shown); so if you set it to the trimbox values, the outer bleed|media box part is no longer shown on screen > Bleedbox : 9.25" x 6.25" > Trimbox : 9.00" x 6.00" > Artbox : 9.00" x 6.00" > yes (as I understand it; I'm no printer) > Should I supply metadata so pdfTeX can store this in the final PDF? If > so, how do I do it? > I would suggest, that you don't use this for you current project. There is no need to use low level commands here. There is (at user level, but work in progress) % (currently only a copy of the mediabox values) \setupinteractionscreen [trimbox={[0 0 595.2756 841.8898]},% values are ignored cropbox={[0 0 595.2756 841.8898]}, ] and % low level \doPDFpageattribute{/TrimBox [0 0 595.2756 841.8898]} \doPDFpageattribute{/BleedBox [0 0 595.2756 841.8898]} ... The values are from one of my test files, so you have to calculate them for your example. The first two values represent the lower left corner (in pt), the last two values represent the upper right corner of the box. Reference point is the lower left corner of the media box. Bleedbox=Mediabox, Trimbox[ 0.125" 0.125" 6.125" 9.125"] (but in pt). > But Lulu probably doesn't use them... They accept PDFs make with > Word/PDF-Printer, so it can't be _that_ complex. > > Regards, > Pascal de Bruijn > Good luck and success for your book. 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