From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/35884 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Difference between MKIV and MKII Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 19:29:28 +0200 Message-ID: <46BCA078.9020201@wxs.nl> References: <20070808152956.avlhh13lkwckkogw@web.mail.umich.edu> <46BACEA5.6030609@wxs.nl> <20070809181942.fkqwr40cu8k8kssw@web.mail.umich.edu> <46BC38C6.2070908@gmx.net> <46BC437D.8090700@gmx.net> <46BC4B6D.7050607@wxs.nl> <46BC51FE.5010104@gmx.net> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1186766997 10973 80.91.229.12 (10 Aug 2007 17:29:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:29:57 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Aug 10 19:29:54 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IJYJ6-0001wp-4C for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 19:29:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 329E0203C5; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 19:29:50 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 22244-02-9; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 19:29:38 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ADA9203B5; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 19:29:38 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A1F8203B4 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 19:29:36 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 22244-02-8 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 19:29:33 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail.pragma-ade.net (dsl-083-247-100-017.solcon.nl [83.247.100.17]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A404C203AE for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 19:29:33 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [10.100.1.100] (unverified [10.100.1.100]) by controller-1 (SurgeMail 3.7b8) with ESMTP id 9244 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2007 19:29:33 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) In-Reply-To: <46BC51FE.5010104@gmx.net> X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com r=-274017400 X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-1 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:35884 Archived-At: Peter Rolf wrote: > Hans Hagen schrieb: >> Peter Rolf wrote: >>> Peter Rolf schrieb: >>>> Hi Aditya, >>>> >>>> Aditya Mahajan schrieb: >>>>> Quoting Hans Hagen : >>>>> >>>>>> Aditya Mahajan wrote: >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I get significantly different white spaces (and hence page breaks) >>>>>>> while using mkiv and mkii. Is this expected, or should I try to create >>>>>>> minimal example exhibiting such "problems"? >>>>>> indeed >>>>> Here is a minimal example. The spaces around formulas are more. >>>>> >>>> in the meantime I have also updated my \texmf subtree (LM should be up >>>> to date). Using your example, I now get a >>>> >>>> 12pt text font with pdftex and >>>> 10pt text font with luatex (but 12pt in math mode). >>>> >>>> So maybe you have the same problem? >>>> >>>> If I remember it right, luatex normally used the OTF variant of LM in my >>>> prior test. Now it's also T1, but with an additional font (this one is >>>> used for the 10pt text) in comparison to pdftex: >>>> >>>> lmrroman12-regular (Embedded Subset) >>>> Type: Type1 (CID) >>>> Encoding: Identity-H >>>> >>> stupid me. this is otf :) >>> >>> http://partners.adobe.com/public/developer/opentype/index_font_formats.html >> the lm 12 file says ... >> >> ["design_size"]=0, >> ["familyname"]="LMRoman12", >> ["fontname"]="LMRoman12-Regular", >> ["fullname"]="LMRoman12-Regular", >> >> so it looks like we have a problem there; in that case mkiv assumes 10pt >> > i see. which format is used for "design_size"? i tried "12", but i still > get 10pt. "12pt" gives a compilation warning (using luac); i should use > texluac, right? :D > > also: why are the t1 variants used in math mode (E =mc2)? italic (all > but equal sign) and roman (=). dunno, math modes uses tfm files; also, there have been some fixes to tfm/vf loading in mkiv as well as luatex itself .. best check after an update Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________