* MetaFont @ 2007-08-13 11:07 Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini 2007-08-13 11:18 ` MetaFont Hans Hagen 2007-08-13 11:18 ` MetaFont Martin Schröder 0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini @ 2007-08-13 11:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context Hallo, I am still using MetaFont typefaces. Will too LuaTeX support MetaFont as PdfTeX does? Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: MetaFont 2007-08-13 11:07 MetaFont Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini @ 2007-08-13 11:18 ` Hans Hagen 2007-08-13 11:23 ` MetaFont Martin Schröder 2007-08-14 11:06 ` MetaFont Taco Hoekwater 2007-08-13 11:18 ` MetaFont Martin Schröder 1 sibling, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2007-08-13 11:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini wrote: > Hallo, > > I am still using MetaFont typefaces. > Will too LuaTeX support MetaFont as PdfTeX does? as long as you use tfm files and have proper map entries Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: MetaFont 2007-08-13 11:18 ` MetaFont Hans Hagen @ 2007-08-13 11:23 ` Martin Schröder 2007-08-14 11:06 ` MetaFont Taco Hoekwater 1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Martin Schröder @ 2007-08-13 11:23 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users 2007/8/13, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>: > as long as you use tfm files and have proper map entries "Pixel fonts can be used without being listed in the map file." Best Martin ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: MetaFont 2007-08-13 11:18 ` MetaFont Hans Hagen 2007-08-13 11:23 ` MetaFont Martin Schröder @ 2007-08-14 11:06 ` Taco Hoekwater 1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2007-08-14 11:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Hans Hagen wrote: > Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini wrote: >> Hallo, >> >> I am still using MetaFont typefaces. >> Will too LuaTeX support MetaFont as PdfTeX does? Yes (as Hans and Martin said already). But you really should consider switching to outline fonts. Taco ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: MetaFont 2007-08-13 11:07 MetaFont Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini 2007-08-13 11:18 ` MetaFont Hans Hagen @ 2007-08-13 11:18 ` Martin Schröder 1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Martin Schröder @ 2007-08-13 11:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users 2007/8/13, Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini <wwl@musensturm.de>: > I am still using MetaFont typefaces. > Will too LuaTeX support MetaFont as PdfTeX does? Of course. It's still TeX. :-) Best Martin ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
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* Re: MetaFont [not found] <mailman.859.1187098055.2346.ntg-context@ntg.nl> @ 2007-08-15 0:10 ` Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini 2007-08-15 1:09 ` MetaFont Martin Schröder 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini @ 2007-08-15 0:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context > >> I am still using MetaFont typefaces. > >> Will too LuaTeX support MetaFont as PdfTeX does? > > Yes (as Hans and Martin said already). But you really should > consider switching to outline fonts. I am looking for a good way to convert these fonts to type1, but textrace and mftrace don't run under windows and the results of mf2pt1 are not (yet) ok. I am working on this. Has anybody ever tried to rewrite metafont to produce type1 fonts? Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: MetaFont 2007-08-15 0:10 ` MetaFont Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini @ 2007-08-15 1:09 ` Martin Schröder 0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Martin Schröder @ 2007-08-15 1:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users 2007/8/15, Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini <wwl@musensturm.de>: > Has anybody ever tried to rewrite metafont to produce type1 fonts? Yes. The Gyre project is using an extended Metapost to generate Type1 and OTF fonts. Best Martin ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
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* Re: MetaFont [not found] <mailman.916.1187162110.2346.ntg-context@ntg.nl> @ 2007-08-15 10:45 ` Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini 2007-08-15 11:39 ` MetaFont Taco Hoekwater 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini @ 2007-08-15 10:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context > > Has anybody ever tried to rewrite metafont to produce type1 > fonts? > > Yes. The Gyre project is using an extended Metapost to generate > Type1 > and OTF fonts. > > Best > Martin > That's MetaType1? But this does massivly restrict metafonts capabilities. Pens for example are not allowed (Metafont with applied handbrake)! Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: MetaFont 2007-08-15 10:45 ` MetaFont Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini @ 2007-08-15 11:39 ` Taco Hoekwater 0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2007-08-15 11:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini wrote: >>> Has anybody ever tried to rewrite metafont to produce type1 >> fonts? >> >> Yes. The Gyre project is using an extended Metapost to generate >> Type1 >> and OTF fonts. >> >> > > That's MetaType1? > But this does massivly restrict metafonts capabilities. Pens for > example are not allowed (Metafont with applied handbrake)! I agree, metatype1 is not very easy to use if you are familiar with metafont already. For existing fonts, mf2pt1 is in general the best approach, I think. There is a (patched?) version out there that delegates most the hard work to fontforge, and it's results are normally quite acceptable. Best wishes, Taco ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
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* Re: MetaFont [not found] <mailman.925.1187183670.2346.ntg-context@ntg.nl> @ 2007-08-16 9:59 ` Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini 2007-08-16 12:48 ` MetaFont Taco Hoekwater 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini @ 2007-08-16 9:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context > > But this does massivly restrict metafonts capabilities. Pens for > > example are not allowed (Metafont with applied handbrake)! > > I agree, metatype1 is not very easy to use if you are familiar > with > metafont already. For existing fonts, mf2pt1 is in general the > best > approach, I think. There is a (patched?) version out there that > delegates most the hard work to fontforge, and it's results are > normally > quite acceptable. There was once (1990) an article in TUGboat 11:4, pages 525-541 which discribes an patch to mf84. The patched mf could produce type3 fonts. Should'nt it be possible to do the same for type1? Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: MetaFont 2007-08-16 9:59 ` MetaFont Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini @ 2007-08-16 12:48 ` Taco Hoekwater 0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2007-08-16 12:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini wrote: >>> But this does massivly restrict metafonts capabilities. Pens for >>> example are not allowed (Metafont with applied handbrake)! >> I agree, metatype1 is not very easy to use if you are familiar >> with >> metafont already. For existing fonts, mf2pt1 is in general the >> best >> approach, I think. There is a (patched?) version out there that >> delegates most the hard work to fontforge, and it's results are >> normally >> quite acceptable. > > There was once (1990) an article in TUGboat 11:4, pages 525-541 > which discribes an patch to mf84. The patched mf could produce type3 > fonts. Should'nt it be possible to do the same for type1? Not without a lot of effort. Type3 fonts allow all sorts of stuff that is illegal in Type1, like overlapping and mixing of strokes and fills. Best wishes, Taco ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
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* Re: MetaFont [not found] <mailman.999.1187335227.2346.ntg-context@ntg.nl> @ 2007-08-17 20:53 ` Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini 0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini @ 2007-08-17 20:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context > >>> But this does massivly restrict metafonts capabilities. Pens > for > >>> example are not allowed (Metafont with applied handbrake)! > >> I agree, metatype1 is not very easy to use if you are familiar > >> with > >> metafont already. For existing fonts, mf2pt1 is in general the > >> best > >> approach, I think. There is a (patched?) version out there that > >> delegates most the hard work to fontforge, and it's results are > >> normally > >> quite acceptable. > > > > There was once (1990) an article in TUGboat 11:4, pages 525-541 > > which discribes an patch to mf84. The patched mf could produce > type3 > > fonts. Should'nt it be possible to do the same for type1? > > Not without a lot of effort. Type3 fonts allow all sorts of stuff > that is illegal in Type1, like overlapping and mixing of strokes > and fills. The cases where fontforge is refusing, are cases which are best handeld inside metafont, where one has the knowledge: a.) elliptical curves, which are represented by polygons (lots of points and resolution depandend) and should converted to something smoother, and b.) short epicycles, which are also artifacts from penmotions, which can easyly be detected and replaced by an corner point. Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
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