From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/36682 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: waiting for mswincontext Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:19:45 +0200 Message-ID: <46F17651.5080004@wxs.nl> References: <1625208280.20070918233338@gmail.com> <46F0D3D8.7050305@wxs.nl> <20070919164032.193dbd41.schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> <46F13619.6030609@wxs.nl> <20070919192254.1e1fe351.schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> <46F163C6.1030703@wxs.nl> <6faad9f00709191131m3b4b075ak6581d7e3135b3012@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190231164 31450 80.91.229.12 (19 Sep 2007 19:46:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 19:46:04 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Sep 19 21:45:49 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IY5Di-0002o1-K2 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:28:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8E7E2013F; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:28:20 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 31538-10; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:28:20 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D98920116; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:25:26 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 466C41FE33 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:25:24 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 31543-06 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:25:21 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail.pragma-ade.net (dsl-083-247-100-017.solcon.nl [83.247.100.17]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9826B20116 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:20:52 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [10.100.1.100] (unverified [10.100.1.100]) by controller-1 (SurgeMail 3.7b8) with ESMTP id 15032 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:20:52 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) In-Reply-To: <6faad9f00709191131m3b4b075ak6581d7e3135b3012@mail.gmail.com> X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com r=-274017400 X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-1 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:36682 Archived-At: Mojca Miklavec wrote: > On 9/19/07, Hans Hagen wrote: >> btw, >> >> pdftex --ini &plain \\pdfoutput=1 \dump >> >> can do the same for you, but as said .. if the minimals would have plain >> formats they would default to dvi anyway so it would be of no help to you > > pdftex.fmt and mpost.mem would be perfectly fine. No need for > plain.fmt (I guess). (And maybe xetex.fmt as a sugar, although that > one might need some additional files.) pdftex --ini -fmt=pdftex plain.tex \\pdfoutput=1 \dump probably does that, but as said, everyone wants his/her own variant (patterns to start with -) is you know how to use plain, then you also know how to make.call formats -) btw, luatools --make --compile plain luatools --run plain as stub is needed for plain in order to get the lua files loaded (also because we bypass kpse) > It might be extremely simple to generate format the way you describe > above, but perhaps > texexec --make pdftex mpost xetex > could have done the the same job instead (since people are used to it)? sure, but i haven't used plain in ages and using texexec for plain is kind of overkill, so i happily leave that to others to deal with as said, minimals are minimal and should be more minimal instead of adding stuff; the current minimals are way to big (for me) personally i always find it kind of annoying that when i download an achive with binaries, that i also get format files that i don't use (or know) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________