From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/36697 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Taco Hoekwater Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: waiting for mswincontext Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 08:59:12 +0200 Message-ID: <46F21A40.70204@elvenkind.com> References: <1625208280.20070918233338@gmail.com> <46F0D3D8.7050305@wxs.nl> <20070919164032.193dbd41.schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> <46F13619.6030609@wxs.nl> <20070919192254.1e1fe351.schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> <46F163C6.1030703@wxs.nl> <6faad9f00709191131m3b4b075ak6581d7e3135b3012@mail.gmail.com> <46F17651.5080004@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190273582 13510 80.91.229.12 (20 Sep 2007 07:33:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 07:33:02 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Sep 20 09:32:59 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IYGWx-0008Uz-9O for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 09:32:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D695201F2; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 09:32:57 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 13829-02; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 09:32:51 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24C7E20190; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 08:59:20 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5157C20190 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 08:59:18 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08126-08-4 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 08:59:12 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from post-25.mail.nl.demon.net (post-25.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.195]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D878E2018D for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 08:59:12 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from boo.demon.nl ([82.161.175.147]:47748 helo=[10.10.0.6]) by post-25.mail.nl.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1IYG0G-000HCm-Mk for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 06:59:12 +0000 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070305) In-Reply-To: <46F17651.5080004@wxs.nl> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:36697 Archived-At: Hans Hagen wrote: > Mojca Miklavec wrote: >> On 9/19/07, Hans Hagen wrote: >>> btw, >>> >>> pdftex --ini &plain \\pdfoutput=1 \dump >>> >>> can do the same for you, but as said .. if the minimals would have plain >>> formats they would default to dvi anyway so it would be of no help to you >> pdftex.fmt and mpost.mem would be perfectly fine. No need for >> plain.fmt (I guess). (And maybe xetex.fmt as a sugar, although that >> one might need some additional files.) > > pdftex --ini -fmt=pdftex plain.tex \\pdfoutput=1 \dump > > probably does that, but as said, everyone wants his/her own variant > (patterns to start with -) There is no doubt that plain is useful. I always create the plain Knuth format for luatex and pdftex by hand, and while it would be nice to have it done automatically, it is not that much work, and all real input files are there (.ini's are a commandline convenience). If I understood correctly, plain xetex really needs something extra? If that is so, than perhaps that file should be added. Mojca, what's up with that? On dev-context, I have already proposed the removal of a number of binaries, so I can make that request :-) Best wishes, Taco ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________