From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/36721 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: waiting for mswincontext Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:40:33 +0200 Message-ID: <46F3BBC1.2030102@wxs.nl> References: <20070919164032.193dbd41.schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> <46F13619.6030609@wxs.nl> <20070919192254.1e1fe351.schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> <46F163C6.1030703@wxs.nl> <6faad9f00709191131m3b4b075ak6581d7e3135b3012@mail.gmail.com> <46F17651.5080004@wxs.nl> <46F21A40.70204@elvenkind.com> <6faad9f00709200618h1077af37q4abb381040e98afb@mail.gmail.com> <20070920202228.571ed808.schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> <6faad9f00709201321p6f7f397cu99401d29578d494e@mail.gmail.com> <46F2DAE4.4030601@wxs.nl> <20070921093738.72d4ab06.schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190378462 6835 80.91.229.12 (21 Sep 2007 12:41:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:41:02 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Sep 21 14:41:01 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IYhoX-0005Fo-Gs for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:40:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82DF420341; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:40:54 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 18259-02-9; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:40:41 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12BE020334; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:40:41 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D3D20334 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:40:39 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 18259-02-8 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:40:34 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail.pragma-ade.net (dsl-083-247-100-017.solcon.nl [83.247.100.17]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C126220331 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:40:34 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [10.100.1.100] (unverified [10.100.1.100]) by controller-1 (SurgeMail 3.7b8) with ESMTP id 15318 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:40:34 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) In-Reply-To: <20070921093738.72d4ab06.schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com r=-274017400 X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-1 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:36721 Archived-At: Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > THis is a nice feature for our own simple plain documents but nothing > for ConTeXt because there is no replacement in pdfTeX/luaTeX but it > would be nice to have also something to use different fonts for latin, > greek, CJK without using environments and switch to them with only the > right characters. > > I want such a feature because CJK fonts have sometimes ugly latin > characters and I want to use another font for them, I know this did > happen in the current ConTeXt version but there should be no > difference in fonts for CJK and the rest. Both should be defined with > typescripts, one can use one fonts for both or select one for CJK and > another one for the rest. i dunno what this featurs is but if it has to do with some kind of automatism for switching fonts depending on chars, then it has to wait till i have something in place for luatex (using virtual fonts btw, basics are there actually), and then we can look if we can use the same high level interface to mimick this in xetex; it's ok to have the same high level interface with slightly different behaviour, as with font features >>>>> - etex.src (btw: why is that one only used in xetex, but not in pdfTeX?) >>>> this is also used for the pdftex format in w32tex >> because i cannot imagine a macro package to use the content of that file >> >>> I will take a look at w32tex then. >>> >>> It would be really handy to have those three plain formats. >> well, only is if it is not adding too much to the minimals, (and formats >> to be generated by users) > > I have nothing against to make another archive cont-pln with all the > file we need for the plain formats. no problem if we need what should go in there >> if you want such formats, we need dedicated files to make them, like >> pdftex-plain.tex and such (after all, we want predictable stuff) for >> initializing them >> >> Hans > > the file name for the format should math the engine name because it > will be loaded with engine by default if you call it, e.g. pdftex myfile > with process the file myfile with the format file pdftex.fmt sure, but that's why you can have a different formatname and filename that generates it, so you can have blabla.tex being used for generating the format pdftex.fmt (also, since one has to move files anyway, renaming isno big deal either) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________