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From: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: waiting for mswincontext / injecting
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:34:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46F4EFA2.7010300@wxs.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070921201551.9fffa564.schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com>

Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

> Version 0.997 of XeTeX introduced a new concept to assign every
> character a class value. You can define rules what should happen if you
> switch for example from class 1 to class 2 and another one if you do
> the same in reverse order. The commands for this action are saved in
> token register and came into action if this class switch appear in the
> document.

ok, i remember jonathan talking about it at bachotek

> the unicode-letters file from XeTeX define a class for quotation,
> punctutation ... in CJK and another one for the other CJK characters
> and define spacing and linebreaking between normal characters and
> punctuation now by the class number (you did something similiar in your
> chinese module but used active characters instead).

the problem with such mechanisms is limited options for lookahead and 
look back

> The XeTeX reference manual has a simple example of this concept on page
> 10 and 11.
> 
> http://tug.ctan.org/info/xetexref/XeTeX-reference.pdf
> 
> can't  this be done in LuaTeX with nodes (or what you mentioned for
> your color modell) or something similar.

injecting tokens into the nodelist is no option, since at that stage 
tokenization already has been done; so it should happen earlier, during 
tokenization, which can be kind of messy, because even then we're 
talking of

a\beta c -> a\char[beta]c (no further expansion) -> inject expanded 
stuff before, after each chartoken or \char token -> convert tokens to 
nodes

sure, i can implement such an injector (since it's tokens, it should 
haven in the input stream somehow, operating on node lists is kind of 
messy in that case because tokens need to be expanded) but we're not 
going to use that method in mkiv. It's one of those areas where xetex 
and luatex support differs a lot.

> but I am too lazy to rename files or create them always by hand with
> every update ...

that's what scripting is fore, after all, format generation in tex 
engines is not automated at all (one has to manage moving fmt files to 
the right place anyway)

Hans

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-22 10:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.1.1190023202.9795.ntg-context@ntg.nl>
2007-09-17 14:30 ` Recommendations for Speed? Duncan Hothersall
2007-09-18 20:33 ` waiting for mswincontext Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
2007-09-19  7:46   ` Hans Hagen
2007-09-19 14:25     ` Idris Samawi Hamid
2007-09-19 16:33       ` Joel C. Salomon
2007-09-19 17:08         ` Idris Samawi Hamid
2007-09-19 18:02           ` Hans Hagen
2007-09-19 17:24       ` Mojca Miklavec
2007-09-19 14:40     ` Wolfgang Schuster
2007-09-19 14:45       ` Taco Hoekwater
2007-09-19 17:13         ` Idris Samawi Hamid
2007-09-20  7:01           ` Taco Hoekwater
2007-09-19 17:25         ` Wolfgang Schuster
2007-09-19 19:19           ` Idris Samawi Hamid
2007-09-19 19:53             ` Hans Hagen
2007-09-19 22:19               ` Aditya Mahajan
2007-09-19 23:22                 ` Arthur Reutenauer
2007-09-20  7:06                   ` Taco Hoekwater
2007-09-20  7:47                     ` Hans Hagen
2007-09-20 17:24                     ` Joel C. Salomon
2007-09-20 19:15                       ` Aditya Mahajan
2007-09-20  7:36                 ` Hans Hagen
2007-09-20  7:37                 ` Hans Hagen
2007-09-19 17:26         ` Mojca Miklavec
2007-09-19 17:54           ` Hans Hagen
2007-09-19 14:45       ` Hans Hagen
2007-09-19 17:22         ` Wolfgang Schuster
2007-09-19 18:00           ` Hans Hagen
2007-09-19 18:31             ` Mojca Miklavec
2007-09-19 19:19               ` Hans Hagen
2007-09-20  6:59                 ` Taco Hoekwater
2007-09-20 13:18                   ` Mojca Miklavec
2007-09-20 18:22                     ` Wolfgang Schuster
2007-09-20 20:21                       ` Mojca Miklavec
2007-09-20 20:41                         ` Hans Hagen
2007-09-21  7:37                           ` Wolfgang Schuster
2007-09-21 12:40                             ` Hans Hagen
2007-09-21 18:15                               ` Wolfgang Schuster
2007-09-22 10:34                                 ` Hans Hagen [this message]
2007-09-23 11:52                                   ` waiting for mswincontext / injecting Wolfgang Schuster
2007-09-23 17:45                                     ` Mojca Miklavec
2007-09-23 17:49                                       ` Arthur Reutenauer
2007-09-23 18:00                                         ` Hans Hagen
2007-09-23 18:18                                       ` Idris Samawi Hamid
2007-09-23 20:01                                         ` Hans Hagen
2007-09-23 20:19                                           ` Idris Samawi Hamid
2007-09-23 18:24                                       ` Hans Hagen
2007-09-19 16:14     ` waiting for mswincontext Joel C. Salomon
2007-09-19 16:58       ` Hans Hagen
     [not found]   ` <6faad9f00709190257x35bd3495p1a5ee0de51f2a150@mail.gmail.com>
2007-09-19 15:00     ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky

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