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* got win mimimals at last
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@ 2007-09-26 21:38 ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
  2007-09-26 22:22   ` Hans Hagen
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From: Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky @ 2007-09-26 21:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ntg-context-request@ntg.nl

Hello,

Hurray!!! The recent Windows minimals work fine for me! Thank you, Mojca, for showing a hidden place in the garden!  :)  And my a kind of installer works too, how nice! :)))

A few words about my 'installer' (maybe someone is interested). It does the same job as setuptex.bat, but sets variables globally by writing into registry instead of dos box. So I can call binaries from any application and it all works!.

(Remark: merely setting the PATH variable is not enough, dozen other are needed. Vars were typically defined in texmf.cnf files, but I was surprised to find that those files are explicitly ignored by luatex. )

My next step is to create 'real' installer for Windows. I've discussed this idea several times here and feel that people need it (I do :) My vision of the installer is: install-and-forget on any Windows machine. Target audience: novices. It will include mimimal distribution (56Mb), install or require Ruby too (not included in minimals?). This installation will NOT be able to coexist with MikTeX or TeXLive, because settings will clash.

That's all news and thank you all!!

Best,
Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky

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* Re: got win mimimals at last
  2007-09-26 21:38 ` got win mimimals at last Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
@ 2007-09-26 22:22   ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2007-09-26 22:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Yatskovsky, mailing list for ConTeXt users

Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Hurray!!! The recent Windows minimals work fine for me! Thank you, Mojca, for showing a hidden place in the garden!  :)  And my a kind of installer works too, how nice! :)))
> 
> A few words about my 'installer' (maybe someone is interested). It does the same job as setuptex.bat, but sets variables globally by writing into registry instead of dos box. So I can call binaries from any application and it all works!.
> 
> (Remark: merely setting the PATH variable is not enough, dozen other are needed. Vars were typically defined in texmf.cnf files, but I was surprised to find that those files are explicitly ignored by luatex. )

not by luatex, but by mkiv ... kpse is not used at all, some day mkiv 
will use its own configuration files, currently, if you change a cfn 
file (or add files ot the tree) you need to run

luatools --generate

(a configuration file will be written to the cache then)

Hans

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* Re: got win mimimals at last
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@ 2007-09-27  8:47       ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2007-09-27  8:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:
> Hello Hans,
> 
>> not by luatex, but by mkiv ... kpse is not used at all, some day mkiv 
>> will use its own configuration files, currently, if you change a cfn 
>> file (or add files ot the tree) you need to run luatools --generate 
> 
> But what for I could change a cnf file if it is ignored by mkiv? 

it's not ignored, if you do luatools --generate, it is read, converted 
into a lua table, adapted a bit, saved in the cache, and read each run

> And what luatools --generate does? Does it perform a subset of texexec --make --luatex functions, or makes something slightly different? I always run the latter command to resolve any problem. :)

it replaces kpsewhich + some more (you can run/generate formats, where 
it will take care of bootstrapping issues)

what the --generate does ... well, it tells you ... creating file 
databases, preparing configurations, storing them for fast access, etc

(the same code is used in mkiv, but there we also can access other 
resouces like zip files)


LuaTools | loading c:/data/develop/tex/texmf-mine/web2c/texmf.cnf
LuaTools | preparing configuration in 
c:/temp/luatex-cache/context/36cfaf81cc343ab858e892f7ccbb5039/trees/36cfaf81cc343ab858e892f7cc
bb5039.tma
LuaTools | saving configuration in 
c:/temp/luatex-cache/context/36cfaf81cc343ab858e892f7ccbb5039/trees/36cfaf81cc343ab858e892f7ccbb5
039.tma
LuaTools | compiling configuration to 
c:/temp/luatex-cache/context/36cfaf81cc343ab858e892f7ccbb5039/trees/36cfaf81cc343ab858e892f7cc
bb5039.tmc
LuaTools | locating list of c:/data/develop/tex/texmf-project
LuaTools | locating list of c:/data/develop/tex/texmf-fonts
LuaTools | locating list of c:/data/develop/tex/texmf-local
LuaTools | locating list of c:/data/develop/tex/texmf-extra
LuaTools | locating list of c:/data/develop/tex/texmf
LuaTools | scanning path c:/data/develop/tex/texmf-fonts
LuaTools | 4939 files found on 276 directories with 62 uppercase remappings
LuaTools | scanning path c:/data/develop/tex/texmf-local
LuaTools | 6349 files found on 355 directories with 3 uppercase remappings
LuaTools | scanning path c:/data/develop/tex/texmf-extra
LuaTools | 58 files found on 117 directories with 0 uppercase remappings
LuaTools | scanning path c:/data/develop/tex/texmf
LuaTools | 59048 files found on 5112 directories with 2079 uppercase 
remappings
LuaTools | preparing files in 
c:/temp/luatex-cache/context/36cfaf81cc343ab858e892f7ccbb5039/trees/9d7d4301715a734deee39f8c8235fb6e.t
ma
LuaTools | saving files in 
c:/temp/luatex-cache/context/36cfaf81cc343ab858e892f7ccbb5039/trees/9d7d4301715a734deee39f8c8235fb6e.tma
LuaTools | compiling files to 
c:/temp/luatex-cache/context/36cfaf81cc343ab858e892f7ccbb5039/trees/9d7d4301715a734deee39f8c8235fb6e.t
mc
LuaTools | preparing files in 
c:/temp/luatex-cache/context/36cfaf81cc343ab858e892f7ccbb5039/trees/e2b439093637a43a1e06dad11b9acfd4.t
ma
LuaTools | saving files in 
c:/temp/luatex-cache/context/36cfaf81cc343ab858e892f7ccbb5039/trees/e2b439093637a43a1e06dad11b9acfd4.tma
LuaTools | compiling files to 
c:/temp/luatex-cache/context/36cfaf81cc343ab858e892f7ccbb5039/trees/e2b439093637a43a1e06dad11b9acfd4.t
mc
LuaTools | preparing files in 
c:/temp/luatex-cache/context/36cfaf81cc343ab858e892f7ccbb5039/trees/04ba8d80d787b2df2d374aa2eb175600.t
ma
LuaTools | saving files in 
c:/temp/luatex-cache/context/36cfaf81cc343ab858e892f7ccbb5039/trees/04ba8d80d787b2df2d374aa2eb175600.tma
LuaTools | compiling files to 
c:/temp/luatex-cache/context/36cfaf81cc343ab858e892f7ccbb5039/trees/04ba8d80d787b2df2d374aa2eb175600.t
mc
LuaTools | preparing files in 
c:/temp/luatex-cache/context/36cfaf81cc343ab858e892f7ccbb5039/trees/30c7af0b47d2e1295ccf508a92e2b307.t
ma
LuaTools | saving files in 
c:/temp/luatex-cache/context/36cfaf81cc343ab858e892f7ccbb5039/trees/30c7af0b47d2e1295ccf508a92e2b307.tma
LuaTools | compiling files to 
c:/temp/luatex-cache/context/36cfaf81cc343ab858e892f7ccbb5039/trees/30c7af0b47d2e1295ccf508a92e2b307.t
mc





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