* still waiting for mswincontext [not found] <mailman.2030.1190571897.2346.ntg-context@ntg.nl> @ 2007-09-24 14:12 ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky 2007-09-25 22:02 ` Mojca Miklavec 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky @ 2007-09-24 14:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context-request@ntg.nl Hello, Let me ask a few questions: 1) When "big things" will be regenerated? I'm still waiting for mswincontext with updated binaries. 2) What is the difference between mswincontext and mswintex packages? 3) If someone made mswincontext to work with latest updates, can he or she post how? After September 10 update of cont-tfm my installation produces broken pdfs, and even getting latest luatex from sourge didn't help. Best regards, Vaytcheslav Yatskovsky ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: still waiting for mswincontext 2007-09-24 14:12 ` still waiting for mswincontext Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky @ 2007-09-25 22:02 ` Mojca Miklavec 2007-09-26 7:50 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2007-09-25 22:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Yatskovsky, mailing list for ConTeXt users On 9/24/07, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: > Hello, > > Let me ask a few questions: > > 1) When "big things" will be regenerated? I'm still waiting for mswincontext with updated binaries. I cannot answer that since it's Hans's decision. But I can assure you that a lot has been happenng in the meantime, esp. considering font loading. However, no matter how many iterations of bug reporting & bug fixing happen, new and new problems keep arising. Font loading in XeTeX has been broken since February (since the first tries to support OpenType LM instead of old TFM variants) and has only partially been fixed until now. And now, when finally the support has been improved, new problems have arised. Note that also three really important fixes have been added to XeTeX recently, so ConTeXt works much better with XeTeX 0.997. > 2) What is the difference between mswincontext and mswintex packages? mswincontext also includes scite. Perhap's there's more that I'm not aware of, but the rest should be pretty the same. mswintex only includes binaries. You also need to download justtex. > 3) If someone made mswincontext to work with latest updates, can he or she post how? After September 10 update of cont-tfm my installation produces broken pdfs, and even getting latest luatex from sourge didn't help. It's the ConTeXt distribution, not the binaries which are broken. You can download http://minimals.contextgarden.net/bin/windows/rsync/ and then use rsync -rvzctl rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/minimals/windows/ your-folder for the majority of the standard minimals or rsync -rvzctl rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/context/beta/ your-folder to get only a working version of ConTeXt or rsync -rvzctl rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/os/windows/ your-folder to get only the binaries. But it's all in an experimental stage, and it's far from complete, so take this only as a temporary solution. The structure of "minimals" will change, that's for sure, but you can use it now to compile your documents. But note that there are still some problems: - wrong font size in XeTeX - textext("...") in metapost doesn't work - most probably others, not yet discovered Mojca ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: still waiting for mswincontext 2007-09-25 22:02 ` Mojca Miklavec @ 2007-09-26 7:50 ` Hans Hagen 2007-09-26 10:40 ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2007-09-26 7:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Yatskovsky Mojca Miklavec wrote: > Note that also three really important fixes have been added to XeTeX > recently, so ConTeXt works much better with XeTeX 0.997. the bottom line is, that we need to make sure that we hav ethe most recent bins for all platforms before we can generate minimals > It's the ConTeXt distribution, not the binaries which are broken. i'm a bit puzzled ... for pdftex, nothing changed, for luatex, indeed bins and zips need to be in sync (esp because there have been changes in the lua font code that needed adaptions in the mkiv code) and xetex ... well, that's an interplay between engine and macros and trying to adapt i think that luatex and xetex are fast moving targets so in most cases one needs to have updates of them and macro packages in sync; xetexs font syntax has changed over time, currently a feature was added to intercept problems but this is only on the latest bins, font searching is very engine dependent and also to some extend os dependent (upper/lowercase) etc etc anyhow, the dust will probably settle in a few weeks (new bins available everywhere) a tricky area is metapost ... since mp cannot handle open type we need to bend the rules sometimes and do ugly workarounds but we're getting there > But note that there are still some problems: > - wrong font size in XeTeX more a xetex problem > - textext("...") in metapost doesn't work will never work completely if one uses different fonts in xetex and metapost in one document (well, it can work, but one had to make sure that the map stuff is sorted out then) > - most probably others, not yet discovered we'll try to keep them hidden -) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: still waiting for mswincontext 2007-09-26 7:50 ` Hans Hagen @ 2007-09-26 10:40 ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky 2007-09-26 10:48 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky @ 2007-09-26 10:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Hans Hagen; +Cc: ntg-context-request@ntg.nl Hello Hans, Could you please answer my questions about recent Windows minimal? 1) Why we need to set almost all in setuptex.bat, while the same vars (except Windows' PATH) are already set in texmf.cnf? 2) How can I get rid of LM (and other) fonts completely? I want to use solely luatex and system fonts, but bound to have those monsters too. My area of interest is luatex only, since it is progressive, font-tolerant and powerful. :o) -- Best regards, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: still waiting for mswincontext 2007-09-26 10:40 ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky @ 2007-09-26 10:48 ` Hans Hagen 2007-09-26 21:10 ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky 2007-09-30 17:22 ` still waiting for mswincontext Joel C. Salomon 0 siblings, 2 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2007-09-26 10:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Yatskovsky; +Cc: ntg-context-request@ntg.nl Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: > Hello Hans, > > Could you please answer my questions about recent Windows minimal? > > 1) Why we need to set almost all in setuptex.bat, while the same vars (except Windows' PATH) are already set in texmf.cnf? well, this is not recent, but has aways been the case; in setuptex i make sure that no conflicts can arise between different trees; so one can have multiple trees installed, without clashed; you don't wanna know what can happen (and how much time it costs to find out and fix) if some installer has set variables at the outer shell level; i just don't want to take any risk here > 2) How can I get rid of LM (and other) fonts completely? I want to use solely luatex and system fonts, but bound to have those monsters too. just delete them but i would not delete the lm since they're used as fallbacks; if you want to default to something else, you need to tweak the initializations (maybe some day when the gyre math fonts are there i'll provide something for that); keep in mind that many tex users use tex for math and not having set up math will break al lot then > My area of interest is luatex only, since it is progressive, font-tolerant and powerful. :o) well, the overhead of lm is not that large (maybe someday i'll ship zips and run the fonts from zips); a few cjk fonts in your system font path take more space -) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: still waiting for mswincontext 2007-09-26 10:48 ` Hans Hagen @ 2007-09-26 21:10 ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky [not found] ` <46FADBC9.2000701@wxs.nl> 2007-09-30 17:22 ` still waiting for mswincontext Joel C. Salomon 1 sibling, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky @ 2007-09-26 21:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Hans Hagen; +Cc: ntg-context-request@ntg.nl Hello Hans, Just noticed that when making formats luatools skips texmf.cnt in both subtrees. Does it mean that .cnf files are not needed anymore by luatex, and it relies only on environmental vars? Best regards, Vyatcheslav ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
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* luatex for random numbers [not found] ` <46FB8855.1050504@wxs.nl> @ 2007-09-27 15:52 ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky 2007-09-27 15:57 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky @ 2007-09-27 15:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context-request@ntg.nl Hello friends, I have a small but urgent question. How to call luatex commands in the document? (I heard there were some recent changes.) More specifically, how to generate integer random numbers in given range? I'm preparing a quiz on numbering systems for my students on tomorrow, so your fast help would be greatly appreciated! :) Best regards, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: luatex for random numbers 2007-09-27 15:52 ` luatex for random numbers Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky @ 2007-09-27 15:57 ` Hans Hagen 2007-09-27 16:31 ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2007-09-27 15:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Yatskovsky, mailing list for ConTeXt users Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: > Hello friends, > > I have a small but urgent question. > > How to call luatex commands in the document? (I heard there were some recent changes.) More specifically, how to generate integer random numbers in given range? I'm preparing a quiz on numbering systems for my students on tomorrow, so your fast help would be greatly appreciated! :) \startluacode \stopluacode \ctxlua{...} whatever you like tex.sprint(someresult) pipes back into tex ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: luatex for random numbers 2007-09-27 15:57 ` Hans Hagen @ 2007-09-27 16:31 ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky 2007-09-27 16:51 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky @ 2007-09-27 16:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Hans Hagen; +Cc: ntg-context-request@ntg.nl Hello Hans, Thanks. Is there any way to print a number in hex or bin form? (Either using lua or tex facilities?) I already know how to generate random integer numbers, \ctxlua{tex.print(math.random(30,60)) ;} now I need to represent them as binary or hexadecimal. -- Best regards, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: luatex for random numbers 2007-09-27 16:31 ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky @ 2007-09-27 16:51 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2007-09-27 16:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Yatskovsky; +Cc: ntg-context-request@ntg.nl Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote: > Hello Hans, > > Thanks. Is there any way to print a number in hex or bin form? (Either using lua or tex facilities?) I already know how to generate random integer numbers, > \ctxlua{tex.print(math.random(30,60)) ;} > now I need to represent them as binary or hexadecimal. you can use string.format if you wanna use lua seriously, it makes sense to buy the book ... easy reading, very complete and inexpensive Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: still waiting for mswincontext 2007-09-26 10:48 ` Hans Hagen 2007-09-26 21:10 ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky @ 2007-09-30 17:22 ` Joel C. Salomon 2007-09-30 18:47 ` Hans Hagen 1 sibling, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Joel C. Salomon @ 2007-09-30 17:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On 9/26/07, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote: > > 1) Why we need to set almost all in setuptex.bat, while the same vars (except Windows' PATH) are already set in texmf.cnf? > > well, this is not recent, but has aways been the case; in setuptex i > make sure that no conflicts can arise between different trees; so one > can have multiple trees installed, without clashed; you don't wanna know > what can happen (and how much time it costs to find out and fix) if some > installer has set variables at the outer shell level; i just don't want > to take any risk here So what environment variables can I set globally to avoid the need for running setuptex.bat? My first guess is: OSFONTDIR=%SystemRoot%\fonts SETUPTEX=done CTXMINIMAL=yes TEXPATH=C:\...<whatever the path is>...\context\tex\ TEXMFMAIN=%TEXPATH%\texmf TEXMFOS=%TEXPATH%\texmf-mswin TEXMFPROJECT=%TEXPATH%\texmf-project TEXMFFONTS=%TEXPATH%\texmf-fonts TEXMFLOCAL=%TEXPATH%\texmf-local TEXMFEXTRA=%TEXPATH%\texmf-extra TEXMFCNF=%TEXPATH%\texmf{-local,}\web2c TEXPOOL=%TEXMFOS%/web2c\{$engine,} TEXFORMATS=%TEXMFOS%\web2c\{$engine,} MPMEMS=%TEXMFOS%\web2c\{$engine,} MPPOOL=%TEXMFOS%\web2c\{$engine,} Path=%TEXMFOS%\BIN;%Path% TEXMFCACHE=%TEMP% VARTEXMF=%TEXMFCACHE%\texmf-var TEXMF={$TEXMFOS,$TEXMFPROJECT,$TEXMFFONTS,$TEXMFLOCAL,$TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN} TEXMFDBS=$TEXMF RUBYLIB=%TEXMFLOCAL%\SCRIPTS\CONTEXT\RUBY; ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: still waiting for mswincontext 2007-09-30 17:22 ` still waiting for mswincontext Joel C. Salomon @ 2007-09-30 18:47 ` Hans Hagen 2007-09-30 22:13 ` Joel C. Salomon 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2007-09-30 18:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Joel C. Salomon wrote: > On 9/26/07, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote: >>> 1) Why we need to set almost all in setuptex.bat, while the same vars (except Windows' PATH) are already set in texmf.cnf? >> well, this is not recent, but has aways been the case; in setuptex i >> make sure that no conflicts can arise between different trees; so one >> can have multiple trees installed, without clashed; you don't wanna know >> what can happen (and how much time it costs to find out and fix) if some >> installer has set variables at the outer shell level; i just don't want >> to take any risk here > > So what environment variables can I set globally to avoid the need for > running setuptex.bat? My first guess is: > > OSFONTDIR=%SystemRoot%\fonts if you want to use platform fonts indeed > SETUPTEX=done > CTXMINIMAL=yes not if setuptex is not used > TEXPATH=C:\...<whatever the path is>...\context\tex\ > TEXMFMAIN=%TEXPATH%\texmf > > TEXMFOS=%TEXPATH%\texmf-mswin > TEXMFPROJECT=%TEXPATH%\texmf-project > TEXMFFONTS=%TEXPATH%\texmf-fonts > TEXMFLOCAL=%TEXPATH%\texmf-local > TEXMFEXTRA=%TEXPATH%\texmf-extra depends on your trees > TEXMFCNF=%TEXPATH%\texmf{-local,}\web2c handy indeed > TEXPOOL=%TEXMFOS%/web2c\{$engine,} not for luatex/xetex > TEXFORMATS=%TEXMFOS%\web2c\{$engine,} not for luatex > MPMEMS=%TEXMFOS%\web2c\{$engine,} depends > MPPOOL=%TEXMFOS%\web2c\{$engine,} not needed any more > Path=%TEXMFOS%\BIN;%Path% sure > TEXMFCACHE=%TEMP% yes or use the defaults > VARTEXMF=%TEXMFCACHE%\texmf-var not really used > TEXMF={$TEXMFOS,$TEXMFPROJECT,$TEXMFFONTS,$TEXMFLOCAL,$TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN} yes > TEXMFDBS=$TEXMF dependes on kpse version i think > > RUBYLIB=%TEXMFLOCAL%\SCRIPTS\CONTEXT\RUBY; often not needed ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: still waiting for mswincontext 2007-09-30 18:47 ` Hans Hagen @ 2007-09-30 22:13 ` Joel C. Salomon 2007-09-30 22:40 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Joel C. Salomon @ 2007-09-30 22:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On 9/30/07, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote: > > So what environment variables can I set globally to avoid the need for > > running setuptex.bat? My first guess is: <snip> > > SETUPTEX=done > > CTXMINIMAL=yes > > not if setuptex is not used CTXMINIMAL is also not needed? > > TEXPATH=C:\...<whatever the path is>...\context\tex\ > > TEXMFMAIN=%TEXPATH%\texmf > > > > TEXMFOS=%TEXPATH%\texmf-mswin > > TEXMFPROJECT=%TEXPATH%\texmf-project > > TEXMFFONTS=%TEXPATH%\texmf-fonts > > TEXMFLOCAL=%TEXPATH%\texmf-local > > TEXMFEXTRA=%TEXPATH%\texmf-extra > > depends on your trees Using the directory tree as stored in mswincontext as my starting point. > > TEXPOOL=%TEXMFOS%/web2c\{$engine,} > > not for luatex/xetex > > > TEXFORMATS=%TEXMFOS%\web2c\{$engine,} > > not for luatex > > > MPMEMS=%TEXMFOS%\web2c\{$engine,} > > depends > > > MPPOOL=%TEXMFOS%\web2c\{$engine,} > > not needed any more But setuptex still sets these. What does it mean, that TEXPOOL &al. aren't needed for luatex/xetex? Does MKII need them? > > TEXMF={$TEXMFOS,$TEXMFPROJECT,$TEXMFFONTS,$TEXMFLOCAL,$TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN} > > yes > > > TEXMFDBS=$TEXMF > > dependes on kpse version i think I've been using %var% notation for parts that Windows expands when the variable is defined, but I see UNIX-style $var here and there. Should these be expanded at define-time also, or are these for the programs that use them to understand? I've got Perl, Python, and Ruby installed, & I'm using mswincontext and upgrades thereto as the only TeX distribution on the machine; I'd like it to work as smoothly as MiKTeX does where it's installed -- i.e., replace setuptex with a machine-global set-up. And I'm willing to jump through some hoops to find the "right way" so installation can be made easier for others --Joel ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: still waiting for mswincontext 2007-09-30 22:13 ` Joel C. Salomon @ 2007-09-30 22:40 ` Hans Hagen 2007-10-01 2:22 ` Joel C. Salomon 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2007-09-30 22:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Joel C. Salomon wrote: > CTXMINIMAL is also not needed? depends on if it used, not if you go real minimal (more for calling scripts) > But setuptex still sets these. What does it mean, that TEXPOOL &al. > aren't needed for luatex/xetex? Does MKII need them? not related to mkiv/mkii but to engines ... liatex has no pool file, xetex neither, pdftex soon will have no pool file and modern metaposts also lacks such a file > I've been using %var% notation for parts that Windows expands when the > variable is defined, but I see UNIX-style $var here and there. Should > these be expanded at define-time also, or are these for the programs > that use them to understand? $whatever is kpse syntax (which is some derivate to unix scripting) anyhow. %whatever% will be xpanded by the env var handler, and $whatever not, (on linux it may expand depending on escaping Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: still waiting for mswincontext 2007-09-30 22:40 ` Hans Hagen @ 2007-10-01 2:22 ` Joel C. Salomon 0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Joel C. Salomon @ 2007-10-01 2:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users So, to sum up: The tex engines should be accessible via PATH, OSFONTDIR is really handy; other than that only TEXPATH and TEXMF* are needed, since "pool files" (whatever they are) are on the way out. Seems straightforward enough, if that's complete. Is there any real point to creating an NSIS or Inno Setup install program for mswincontext, or is someone working onthat already? They both handle environment variables nicely, I've heard. --Joel ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
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* Re: still waiting for mswincontext [not found] <mailman.2193.1191183580.2346.ntg-context@ntg.nl> @ 2007-09-30 20:55 ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky 0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky @ 2007-09-30 20:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context-request@ntg.nl Hello, > So what environment variables can I set globally to avoid the need for > running setuptex.bat? Personally I came to the following set of vars (for luatex): PATH = G:\rsync\windows\texmf-mswin\bin; OSFONTDIR = %WINDIR%\Fonts TEXMF = {g:\rsync\windows\texmf,g:\rsync\windows\texmf-local} TEXMFCACHE = %WINDIR%\Temp TEXMFCNF = G:\rsync\windows\texmf{-local,}/web2c LUAINPUTS = .;$TEXMF/tex/context/base;$TEXMF/scripts/context/lua I use this set at the moment and luatex works (though, I use little features). Best regards, Vyatcheslav ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
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