Quickie about Line Numbering

Quickie about Line Numbering

[Matthias Wächter]

Hi!

Just wondering how I can manage to number all the lines of my document.
Thought that this would work but it actually doesn't.

\starttext
\startlinenumbering

\chapter{First}

A paragraph

Another paragraph.

\chapter{Second}

Wait and see---nothing.

\stoplinenumbering
\stoptext


Is there a better/smarter way for doing this than typing a lot of
\(start|stop)linenumbering around paragraphs of text? We need line
numbers as part of our document review process for clearly referencing
error spots.

- Matthias
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Re: Quickie about Line Numbering

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 21:46 +0100, Matthias Wächter wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Just wondering how I can manage to number all the lines of my document.
> Thought that this would work but it actually doesn't.
> 
> \starttext
> \startlinenumbering
> 
> \chapter{First}
> 
> A paragraph
> 
> Another paragraph.
> 
> \chapter{Second}
> 
> Wait and see---nothing.
> 
> \stoplinenumbering
> \stoptext
> 
> 
> Is there a better/smarter way for doing this than typing a lot of
> \(start|stop)linenumbering around paragraphs of text? We need line
> numbers as part of our document review process for clearly referencing
> error spots.
> 
> - Matthias

I have some dim recollection that I asked a similar question some time
ago, and the answer was: you can't (but I can't find a reference in the
archive, so I may be wrong). You'll have to explicitly tell ConTeXt to
start line numbering after headings:

\starttext

\chapter{First}

\startlinenumbering
A paragraph

Another paragraph.
\stoplinenumbering

\chapter{Second}

\startlinenumbering
Wait and see---nothing.
\stoplinenumbering

\stoptext

Thomas

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Re: Quickie about Line Numbering

[Matthias Wächter]

Thomas A. Schmitz schrieb:

>> Just wondering how I can manage to number all the lines of my document.
>> Thought that this would work but it actually doesn't.

> I have some dim recollection that I asked a similar question some time
> ago, and the answer was: you can't (but I can't find a reference in the
> archive, so I may be wrong). You'll have to explicitly tell ConTeXt to
> start line numbering after headings:

Thanks for your (sad) answer.

I really wonder why this is not implemented. It's so easy to do in
LaTeX, and we _really_ need it for our review process. I will never
convince my boss to change to ConTeXt without document-wide line numbers
... :/

But maybe in Lua it's just a three-liner, so I won't give up hope. Not
now. :)

- Matthias
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Re: Quickie about Line Numbering

[Taco Hoekwater]

Matthias Wächter wrote:
> Thomas A. Schmitz schrieb:
> 
>>> Just wondering how I can manage to number all the lines of my document.
>>> Thought that this would work but it actually doesn't.
> 
>> I have some dim recollection that I asked a similar question some time
>> ago, and the answer was: you can't (but I can't find a reference in the
>> archive, so I may be wrong). You'll have to explicitly tell ConTeXt to
>> start line numbering after headings:
> 
> Thanks for your (sad) answer.
> 
> I really wonder why this is not implemented. It's so easy to do in
> LaTeX, and we _really_ need it for our review process. I will never
> convince my boss to change to ConTeXt without document-wide line numbers
> ... :/
> 
> But maybe in Lua it's just a three-liner, so I won't give up hope. Not
> now. :)

If it is only for the reviewing process, you can misuse the grid
debugging aid:

   \showgrid[none]

should be usable.

Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: Quickie about Line Numbering

[Hans Hagen]

Matthias Wächter wrote:
> Thomas A. Schmitz schrieb:
> 
>>> Just wondering how I can manage to number all the lines of my document.
>>> Thought that this would work but it actually doesn't.
> 
>> I have some dim recollection that I asked a similar question some time
>> ago, and the answer was: you can't (but I can't find a reference in the
>> archive, so I may be wrong). You'll have to explicitly tell ConTeXt to
>> start line numbering after headings:
> 
> Thanks for your (sad) answer.
> 
> I really wonder why this is not implemented. It's so easy to do in
> LaTeX, and we _really_ need it for our review process. I will never
> convince my boss to change to ConTeXt without document-wide line numbers
> .... :/
> 
> But maybe in Lua it's just a three-liner, so I won't give up hope. Not
> now. :)

afaik in latex they tweak the output routine by handling line by line 
which is ok for proofing article like stuff where messing up the spacing 
is no problem

in context, which has much more integrated in the otr that will not work 
out ok and i don't like implementing things half broken (apart from not 
needing it)

in mkiv i will deal with line numbering in a different way (i have some 
experimental code) and there it will be available in a couple of months
(i just need time and reason)

Hans

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Re: Quickie about Line Numbering

[Matthias Wächter]

Hans,

Hans Hagen schrieb:
> Matthias Wächter wrote:
>> I really wonder why this is not implemented. It's so easy to do in
>> LaTeX, and we _really_ need it for our review process. I will never
>> convince my boss to change to ConTeXt without document-wide line numbers
>> .... :/
> afaik in latex they tweak the output routine by handling line by line 
> which is ok for proofing article like stuff where messing up the spacing 
> is no problem
>
> in context, which has much more integrated in the otr that will not
> work out ok and i don't like implementing things half broken (apart
> from not needing it)

I see.

> in mkiv i will deal with line numbering in a different way (i have some 
> experimental code) and there it will be available in a couple of months
> (i just need time and reason)

Great news! Is there a principle change of operation in mkiv that makes
such new approach to line numbering possible, or is it just new
'motivation' to implement it in lua?

- Matthias
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Re: Quickie about Line Numbering

[Hans Hagen]

Matthias Wächter wrote:
> Hans,
> 
> Hans Hagen schrieb:
>> Matthias Wächter wrote:
>>> I really wonder why this is not implemented. It's so easy to do in
>>> LaTeX, and we _really_ need it for our review process. I will never
>>> convince my boss to change to ConTeXt without document-wide line numbers
>>> .... :/
>> afaik in latex they tweak the output routine by handling line by line 
>> which is ok for proofing article like stuff where messing up the spacing 
>> is no problem
>>
>> in context, which has much more integrated in the otr that will not
>> work out ok and i don't like implementing things half broken (apart
>> from not needing it)
> 
> I see.
> 
>> in mkiv i will deal with line numbering in a different way (i have some 
>> experimental code) and there it will be available in a couple of months
>> (i just need time and reason)
> 
> Great news! Is there a principle change of operation in mkiv that makes
> such new approach to line numbering possible, or is it just new
> 'motivation' to implement it in lua?

manipulating node lists instead of messing around with boxes

Hans


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