From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/37742 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: showfont with xetex (syntax changed?) Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 14:48:55 +0100 Message-ID: <4757FDC7.5050103@wxs.nl> References: <91844FC2-0148-4347-A206-4B22915EBDE3@st.estfiles.de> <6faad9f00712060332s32be7922yf9b7e7788b4197f4@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1196949195 6836 80.91.229.12 (6 Dec 2007 13:53:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 13:53:15 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Dec 06 14:53:24 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J0HAI-0000yR-14 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 14:53:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 687731FC11; Thu, 6 Dec 2007 14:53:05 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 12727-03; Thu, 6 Dec 2007 14:53:05 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7682D1FBF9; Thu, 6 Dec 2007 14:50:16 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5F6D1FBF9 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2007 14:49:59 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 13538-01 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2007 14:49:29 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail.pragma-ade.net (dsl-083-247-100-017.solcon.nl [83.247.100.17]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 607D41FBCC for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2007 14:49:29 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from [10.100.1.100] (unverified [10.100.1.100]) by controller-1 (SurgeMail 3.7b8) with ESMTP id 1477 for ; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 14:49:29 +0100 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) In-Reply-To: <6faad9f00712060332s32be7922yf9b7e7788b4197f4@mail.gmail.com> X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com r=-274017400 X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-1 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:37742 Archived-At: Mojca Miklavec wrote: > But generally, LuaTeX is much more suitable for such previews (only > that there might be no "newshowfont" available yet - writing one is > doable if you know what you're interested in). > > My two cents: ConTeXt currenty uses > smcp=yes,script=latn,onum=yes,liga=yes... > while fontspec uses either > Letters=SmallCaps > Script=Latin > Numbers=OldStyle > Ligatures=Common > or the same raw names as above. I would prefer the "human-readable" > names as in fontspec, but ... well, the font calling mechanisms really > need to improve in my opinion. > What fontspec achieves in one line like (copying from XeTeX list): > \setmainfont[Script=Devanagari]{Sanskrit 2003} > needs dozens of lines in ConTeXt (definefontfeature, define > typescripts in two steps, ... brrrr) > > So in case that some more features in XeTeX/LuaTeX change, do not be > surprised too much ... keep in mind that xetex and mkiv support will not be the same in all those aspects; i more or less expect users to use one or the other engine and then become familiar with its specific interfaces anyhow, a next version of mkiv will support more verbose options, script=slovenian smallcaps=true basically anything in the script, language and feature hashes (lowercased and de-spaced when compared) something numbers=oldstyle could be supported but i see no real reason for it since then we end up in endless lists of possibilities (given all kind of combinations) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________