From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/38905 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Henning Hraban Ramm Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: %18 or 18% : incorrect placement of the percentage sign ? Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:25:45 +0100 Message-ID: <47D39AB3-A934-4BF0-8A3A-2A1AADAD90EC@fiee.net> References: <2823285E-0472-4B8C-AA7C-F1A2F3EE07E8@st.estfiles.de> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1201811256 16509 80.91.229.12 (31 Jan 2008 20:27:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 20:27:36 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Jan 31 21:27:56 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JKg0Q-00057h-Nk for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:27:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA84A1FBC9; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:27:00 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 23641-02-2; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:26:22 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D6A01FB77; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:26:22 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 083621FB49 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:26:20 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 20135-02-10 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:25:46 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from lvps87-230-27-118.dedicated.hosteurope.de (fiee.net [87.230.27.118]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF1D81FB8E for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:25:46 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: (qmail 26315 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2008 21:25:46 +0100 Original-Received: from 221-25.203-62.cust.bluewin.ch (HELO ?10.128.9.3?) (62.203.25.221) by fiee.net with SMTP; 31 Jan 2008 21:25:46 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:38905 Archived-At: Am 2008-01-31 um 16:08 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid: >> I have often seen (in arabic newpapers) the percentage sign set left >> to the number "% 18". >> Recently I read an article (http://sehstoerung.sonance.net/pdfs/ >> TitusNemeth_dissertation.pdf) that calls this "... the incorrect >> placement of the percentage sign". >> >> Any native arabic speaker out there? Is it %18 or 18% ?? > > It really depends on where you live. In Persian, 18% is common, among > Arabs, %18. Both languages are left-to-right, but there is more > than one > convention for dealing with mathematical directionality. > > Some of these issues are still being worked about in the Arabic-script > world. > > These subtlties need to be addressed for proper high-level handling of > Arabic-script in ConTeXt/mkiv. Hm, reminds me of conventions where you place currency symbols - depending on if you live in a economist/accountant surrounding... Do you think some automated handling of such is possible at all? I know nothing about Arabic script, of course... Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________