* minimals: I'm not guilty :)
@ 2008-03-12 2:35 Mojca Miklavec
2008-03-12 3:57 ` Yue Wang
2008-03-12 10:37 ` Hans Hagen
0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2008-03-12 2:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Yatskovsky
Hello,
I have applied the changes to mtx-update.lua made by Hans without
really testing them:
> hm, just copy to mtx-update
>
> it forces us to fix things
Now you need to use --force to really do anything useful (you might
need to update first-setup.sh/bat; I would prefer it without --force,
but well ...).
If anything is really broken, there is still "update-old".
Mojca
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread* Re: minimals: I'm not guilty :) 2008-03-12 2:35 minimals: I'm not guilty :) Mojca Miklavec @ 2008-03-12 3:57 ` Yue Wang 2008-03-12 10:36 ` Hans Hagen 2008-03-12 13:16 ` Mojca Miklavec 2008-03-12 10:37 ` Hans Hagen 1 sibling, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Yue Wang @ 2008-03-12 3:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users thanks, mojca, but I think in the future new minimals should be carefully tested before commit to the server. at least 5 times the formats failed to compile this year which made the users run into problem using it. btw. the minimals works fine under FreeBSD using the Linux compatibility layer. but should we make binaries for BSD i386 and BSD amd64 as well? ps. until now only pdftex works in the minimals if we try to use the good old ways. the configuration files for dvipdfm(x) and dvips are almost missing. should we add it later? or just remove the dvi support completely? ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: minimals: I'm not guilty :) 2008-03-12 3:57 ` Yue Wang @ 2008-03-12 10:36 ` Hans Hagen 2008-03-12 13:16 ` Mojca Miklavec 1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2008-03-12 10:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Yue Wang wrote: > thanks, mojca, but I think in the future new minimals should be > carefully tested before commit to the server. > at least 5 times the formats failed to compile this year which made > the users run into problem using it. > btw. the minimals works fine under FreeBSD using the Linux > compatibility layer. but should we make binaries for BSD i386 and BSD > amd64 as well? > ps. until now only pdftex works in the minimals if we try to use the > good old ways. the configuration files for dvipdfm(x) and dvips are > almost missing. should we add it later? or just remove the dvi support > completely? the minimals are still experimental esp because we want to have automated updates and such; it really takes (esp mojca) lots of time to make sure that all files are there (and no redundant of unused files) as well as to make sure that the scripts works ok but we're getting there Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: minimals: I'm not guilty :) 2008-03-12 3:57 ` Yue Wang 2008-03-12 10:36 ` Hans Hagen @ 2008-03-12 13:16 ` Mojca Miklavec 2008-03-13 0:52 ` Yue Wang 1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2008-03-12 13:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 4:57 AM, Yue Wang wrote: > thanks, mojca, but I think in the future new minimals should be > carefully tested before commit to the server. There are two different things: - scripts devoted to the minimals (which is what I have updated now) - ConTeXt itself The reason for broken distribution has mostly been broken ConTeXt which is Hans's resposibility (and would be broken on any other distribution). But one of the most important features is the possibility to use "--context=YYYY.MM.DD" to take you back in time if your distribution is broken. > at least 5 times the formats failed to compile this year which made > the users run into problem using it. > btw. the minimals works fine under FreeBSD using the Linux > compatibility layer. but should we make binaries for BSD i386 and BSD > amd64 as well? There is no problem to make one, but the most important question: Who is going/willing to send me the binaries for the almost-latest XeTeX, metapost, LuaTeX and pdfTeX? If anyone is willing to take that over (send me binaries for the beginning) and to test it, I will add another architecture to the scripts. > ps. until now only pdftex works in the minimals if we try to use the > good old ways. the configuration files for dvipdfm(x) and dvips are > almost missing. should we add it later? or just remove the dvi support > completely? dvips ... might be supported, I don't know. Is dvipdfm needed? Mojca ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: minimals: I'm not guilty :) 2008-03-12 13:16 ` Mojca Miklavec @ 2008-03-13 0:52 ` Yue Wang 2008-03-13 1:25 ` Mojca Miklavec 0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Yue Wang @ 2008-03-13 0:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Hi, Mojca. thanks for reply. > There is no problem to make one, but the most important question: Who > is going/willing to send me the binaries for the almost-latest XeTeX, > metapost, LuaTeX and pdfTeX? If anyone is willing to take that over > (send me binaries for the beginning) and to test it, I will add > another architecture to the scripts. I can compile the x86 and amd64 binaries, but the bad news is I have no time :( Let's see if native binaries are really need by people on the mailing list. > dvips ... might be supported, I don't know. > > Is dvipdfm needed? > dvipdfmx? Of course. pdftex cannot handle CID fonts well. it wont embed ttc and otf fonts. Apart from that it generates bigger pdfs than other drivers. But now the dvipdfmx configure files are almost missing, and one cannot just use dvipdfmx foobar.tex to generate foobar.pdf directly. dvipdfmx have better support for Asian scripts, I think, and it is needed before LuaTeX/MKIV is stable to do CJK language typesetting (which we will keep waiting for a long, long, long time). Yue Wang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: minimals: I'm not guilty :) 2008-03-13 0:52 ` Yue Wang @ 2008-03-13 1:25 ` Mojca Miklavec 0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2008-03-13 1:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 1:52 AM, Yue Wang wrote: > Hi, Mojca. > > thanks for reply. > > > > There is no problem to make one, but the most important question: Who > > is going/willing to send me the binaries for the almost-latest XeTeX, > > metapost, LuaTeX and pdfTeX? If anyone is willing to take that over > > (send me binaries for the beginning) and to test it, I will add > > another architecture to the scripts. > > I can compile the x86 and amd64 binaries, but the bad news is I have no time :( > Let's see if native binaries are really need by people on the mailing list. Peter is writing some scripts to do everything for you, so you don't need so much time, but at least a computer with enough free space and a bit of patience between pressing a button and having the binaries submitted to the server. But if there is not enough interest and since I have no way to build for BSD ... let me know. > > > dvips ... might be supported, I don't know. > > > > Is dvipdfm needed? > > > dvipdfmx? Of course. pdftex cannot handle CID fonts well. it wont > embed ttc and otf fonts. Apart from that it generates bigger pdfs than > other drivers. > But now the dvipdfmx configure files are almost missing, and one > cannot just use dvipdfmx foobar.tex to generate foobar.pdf directly. > dvipdfmx have better support for Asian scripts, I think, and it is > needed before LuaTeX/MKIV is stable to do CJK language typesetting > (which we will keep waiting for a long, long, long time). OK, in that case no problem. I'm sorry, I have mixed up a few things. You may answer me privately about what is needed (and then be ready to test it - I have no Chineese documents, but maybe Arthur could help as well :). Mojca ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: minimals: I'm not guilty :) 2008-03-12 2:35 minimals: I'm not guilty :) Mojca Miklavec 2008-03-12 3:57 ` Yue Wang @ 2008-03-12 10:37 ` Hans Hagen 1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2008-03-12 10:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Yatskovsky Mojca Miklavec wrote: > Hello, > > I have applied the changes to mtx-update.lua made by Hans without > really testing them: > >> hm, just copy to mtx-update >> >> it forces us to fix things > > Now you need to use --force to really do anything useful (you might > need to update first-setup.sh/bat; I would prefer it without --force, > but well ...). > If anything is really broken, there is still "update-old". mtxrun --script mtx-update --state is the way to go since it uses the stored state Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
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