Re: first steps

Re: first steps

[Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini]

On 9 Apr 2008 at 10:25, ntg-context-request@ntg.nl wrote:

Hallo,

> > Just to make sure - what's the version of ConTeXt and LuaTeX
> > you're using, and do you have the cont-sys.tex file?
> 
> Werner said he had used:

Wolfgang :-)

> 
>    
> http://minimals.contextgarden.net/setup/context-setup-mswin.zip
> 
> But perhaps something was left behind from an earlier install?

I reinstalled the whole thing, exactly the same steps and now it 
runs.

Usally I am switching off an existing MikTeX-Installation by 
renaming the MikTeX-Directory. This was a problem in the past.
May be something went wrong with this step.

--------------------------------------------------
rem switchmt.bat [on|off]
@echo off
set OTEX="E:\PROGRAMME\"
set MTEX="MiKTeX 2.7"
set XTEX="MiKTeX 2.7.closed"
if %1h==h goto end
if %1==out goto off
if %1==on goto on
goto end
:on
if exist %OTEX%%XTEX% rename %OTEX%%XTEX% %MTEX%
goto end
:off
if exist %OTEX%%MTEX% rename %OTEX%%MTEX% %XTEX%
:end
--------------------------------------------------

Thank you, 

Wolfgang
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Re: first steps

[Taco Hoekwater]

Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini wrote:
> On 9 Apr 2008 at 10:25, ntg-context-request@ntg.nl wrote:
> 
> Hallo,
> 
>>> Just to make sure - what's the version of ConTeXt and LuaTeX
>>> you're using, and do you have the cont-sys.tex file?
>> Werner said he had used:
> 
> Wolfgang :-)

Sorry, I get careless sometimes (all those d*rn W-people ... )

There are actually two bugs at play here: context was using out-of-range
characters in a Type1 font; and that in turn triggered the fclose()
errors that were a bug in luatex itself. Interested persons can read the
diagnosis and solution here:

   http://tracker.luatex.org/view.php?id=25

Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: first steps

[Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini]

Hallo,

> That's strange. Here this command gives:
> 103 ~: luatools --all *qplr.*
> /usr/local/texlive/2007/bin/powerpc-darwin/luatools:4392: bad
> argument  
> #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil)
> 
> allthough:
> 
> 104 ~: find /usr/local -name *qplr.*
> /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-dist/fonts/afm/public/tex-gyre/qplr.af
> m
> /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-dist/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/cs-qplr
> .tfm
> /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-dist/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/ec-qplr
> .tfm
> ....
> 

I got the same with texmfstart under Windows

D:\context\wwl>texmfstart luatools --all *.qplr.*
texmfstart luatools --all *.qplr.*
...t/tex/texmf-context/scripts/context/lua/luatools.lua:4392: bad 
argument #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil)

and without texmfstart

D:\context\wwl>luatools --all *qplr.*

no action at all.

Wolfgang

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Re: first steps

[Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini]

On 8 Apr 2008 at 12:00, ntg-context-request@ntg.nl wrote:

> > I am using scite with the following command:
> > texmfstart texexec --autopdf --luatex tst3.tex
> 
> I simply have no idea. I do not understand why windows
> would object to closing a file that doesn't exist (not even
> how it could be possible for an opened file to not exist).
> 
> It could be a simple matter of a missing file that somehow
> luatex fails to check for during opening so it is not discovered
> until it attempts to close the file, but even if that is true,
> I have no idea how to debug anything on windows.
> 
> It could also be a (more complicated) problem triggered by
> disk synchronisation issues in Windows itself. We have been
> bitten by those before (what is your windows flavour?)

Windows 2000

> In either case, someone else has to come up with tests and/or
> fix attempts. The only advice I can give is to reinstall
> context using the new minimals and see if that helps any.
> 
>    http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals

This is a fresh installation. I installed it using
'context-setup-mswin.zip'. 

After some trials, I found that the example compiles ok without the 
TWO \eogonek commands. There were TWO fclose attempts in the logs, 
too.

Can this be a hint?

Wolfgang
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Re: first steps

[Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini]

On 7 Apr 2008 at 20:22, ntg-context-request@ntg.nl wrote:

> > I tried to make my first luatex-steps with the following
> wiki-example
> > -------------------------------------
> > \usetypescript[palatino]
> > \setupbodyfont[palatino,12pt]
> > effe fietsen 2: \input tufte $\sqrt{2}$ \eogonek
> > 
> > \sc effe fietsen 2: \input tufte $\sqrt{2}$ \eogonek
> > -------------------------------------
> > after adding a \start/stoptext pair I get in 4 runs the following
> > error:
> 
> Exactly how did you run luatex? The canonical way is
> 
>    texexec --luatex tst3
> 
> but I expect you are using some editor interface?

I am using scite with the following command:
texmfstart texexec --autopdf --luatex tst3.tex

If I try: 'texexec --luatex tst3' I get two runs with
--------------------------------------------
{d:/context/tex/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/tex-gyre/qpl-ec.map}
fonts          : using map file: original-youngryu-px
{d:/context/tex/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-
youngryu-px.map} [1.1]
systems        : end file tst3 at line 8
 ){d:/context/tex/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/tex-gyre/q-ec-sc.enc}fclose: 
No such file or directory
fclose: No such file or directory

! Emergency stop.
<*> tst3.tex
            
!  ==> Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!

LuaTools | running command: luatex --fmt="d:/context/tex/texmf-
cache/luatex-
cache/context/c80dc1fd5292ec817c6e82c295beaf1e/formats/cont-en" --
lua="d:/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-
cache/context/c80dc1fd5292ec817c6e82c295beaf1e/formats/cont-en.luc" 
"tst3.tex" ""
LuaTools | 
LuaTools | runtime: 23.213 secondsTeXUtil | parsing file tst3.tui
--------------------------------------------

Wolfgang
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Re: first steps

[Taco Hoekwater]

Hi,

Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini wrote:
> 
> I am using scite with the following command:
> texmfstart texexec --autopdf --luatex tst3.tex

I simply have no idea. I do not understand why windows
would object to closing a file that doesn't exist (not even
how it could be possible for an opened file to not exist).

It could be a simple matter of a missing file that somehow
luatex fails to check for during opening so it is not discovered
until it attempts to close the file, but even if that is true,
I have no idea how to debug anything on windows.

It could also be a (more complicated) problem triggered by
disk synchronisation issues in Windows itself. We have been
bitten by those before (what is your windows flavour?)

In either case, someone else has to come up with tests and/or
fix attempts. The only advice I can give is to reinstall
context using the new minimals and see if that helps any.

   http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals

Sorry,
Taco

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first steps

[Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini]

hallo,

I tried to make my first luatex-steps with the following wiki-example
-------------------------------------
\usetypescript[palatino]
\setupbodyfont[palatino,12pt]
effe fietsen 2: \input tufte $\sqrt{2}$ \eogonek

\sc effe fietsen 2: \input tufte $\sqrt{2}$ \eogonek
-------------------------------------
after adding a \start/stoptext pair I get in 4 runs the following 
error:
-------------------------------------
){d:/context/tex/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/tex-gyre/q-ec-sc.enc}fclose: 
No such file or directory
fclose: No such file or directory

! Emergency stop.
<*> tst3.tex
            
!  ==> Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!
-------------------------------------

and in the 3. run I get 

-------------------------------------
fonts          : using map file: original-youngryu-px
[1.1
! This can't happen (ext4).
\actualshipout ... \box \postponedcontent \box 0}}
                                                  \else \message 
{[\ifarrang...
\myshipout ... \fi {\thisisrealpage \realfolio #1}
                                                  \gotonextrealpage 
\aftersh...
\dofinaloutput ...gebody #1#2\setpagecounters }}}}
                                                  \else \the 
\pageboundsetti...
\finaloutput ...EAEAEA \dofinaloutput \fi \fi #1#2
                                                  
\resetselectiepagina \incr...
\sidefloatoutput ...e \else \finalsidefloatoutput 
                                                  \global 
\sidefloatvsize \n...
<argument> ...\fi \else \the \defaultstreamoutput 
                                                  \fi 
...
l.8 \stoptext
-------------------------------------

I can not interpret this error.
Can someone please explain!

Wolfgang

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Re: first steps

[Taco Hoekwater]

Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini wrote:
> hallo,
> 
> I tried to make my first luatex-steps with the following wiki-example
> -------------------------------------
> \usetypescript[palatino]
> \setupbodyfont[palatino,12pt]
> effe fietsen 2: \input tufte $\sqrt{2}$ \eogonek
> 
> \sc effe fietsen 2: \input tufte $\sqrt{2}$ \eogonek
> -------------------------------------
> after adding a \start/stoptext pair I get in 4 runs the following 
> error:

Exactly how did you run luatex? The canonical way is

   texexec --luatex tst3

but I expect you are using some editor interface?

Best wishes,
Taco

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Re: first steps

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini wrote:
> hallo,
>
>  I tried to make my first luatex-steps with the following wiki-example
>  -------------------------------------
>  \usetypescript[palatino]
>  \setupbodyfont[palatino,12pt]
>  effe fietsen 2: \input tufte $\sqrt{2}$ \eogonek
>
>  \sc effe fietsen 2: \input tufte $\sqrt{2}$ \eogonek
>  -------------------------------------
>  after adding a \start/stoptext pair I get in 4 runs the following
>  error:
>  -------------------------------------
>  ){d:/context/tex/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/tex-gyre/q-ec-sc.enc}fclose:
>  No such file or directory
>  fclose: No such file or directory
>
>  ! Emergency stop.
>  <*> tst3.tex
>
>  !  ==> Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!
>  -------------------------------------

Another thing that I don't understand - why is the encoding file for
ec loaded? (Did you make any local modifications to the setup?
Anywhere?) What is the map/dvips/tex-gyre/qpl-ec.map doing there?

Just to make sure - what's the version of ConTeXt and LuaTeX that
you're using, and do you have the cont-sys.tex file?

Mojca
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Re: first steps

[Taco Hoekwater]

Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> 
> Another thing that I don't understand - why is the encoding file for
> ec loaded? (Did you make any local modifications to the setup?
> Anywhere?) What is the map/dvips/tex-gyre/qpl-ec.map doing there?

The 'q' items seem to imply an outdated version of latin modern.


> Just to make sure - what's the version of ConTeXt and LuaTeX that
> you're using, and do you have the cont-sys.tex file?

Werner said he had used:

    http://minimals.contextgarden.net/setup/context-setup-mswin.zip

But perhaps something was left behind from an earlier install?

Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: first steps

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 9:48 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>  Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>  >
>  > Another thing that I don't understand - why is the encoding file for
>  > ec loaded? (Did you make any local modifications to the setup?
>  > Anywhere?) What is the map/dvips/tex-gyre/qpl-ec.map doing there?
>
>  The 'q' items seem to imply an outdated version of latin modern.

That's quasi-palatino (they have kept the old name).

>  > Just to make sure - what's the version of ConTeXt and LuaTeX that
>  > you're using, and do you have the cont-sys.tex file?
>
>  Werner said he had used:
>
>     http://minimals.contextgarden.net/setup/context-setup-mswin.zip
>
>  But perhaps something was left behind from an earlier install?

Part of it has been my fault. Werner, can you try to update and see if
it works now?

I have changed
    \usetypescriptfile[type-gyr]
in cont-sys.tex into
    \beginOLDTEX
    \usetypescriptfile[type-gyr]
    \endOLDTEX
but the weird LuaTeX error might still be worth resolving.

Here's a minimal example for Hans & Taco:

\usetypescriptfile[type-gyr]
\usetypescript[palatino]
\setupbodyfont[palatino,12pt]
\starttext
ab\ccaron
\stoptext

Both LuaTeX and XeTeX fail (two different "bugs"), and I have no idea
why that happens. (Why are the map files loaded without calling the
[ec] encoding in XeTeX? And what's wrong with LuaTeX reading the
map/encoding files?)

Mojca
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Re: first steps

[Mojca Miklavec]

>  Here's a minimal example for Hans & Taco:
>
>  \usetypescriptfile[type-gyr]
>
> \usetypescript[palatino]
>  \setupbodyfont[palatino,12pt]
>  \starttext
>  ab\ccaron
>  \stoptext
>
>  Both LuaTeX and XeTeX fail (two different "bugs"), and I have no idea
>  why that happens. (Why are the map files loaded without calling the
>  [ec] encoding in XeTeX? And what's wrong with LuaTeX reading the
>  map/encoding files?)

In case that it helps - here's the log:

fonts          : using map file: original-ams-base
{/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-ams-base.map}
fonts          : using map file: original-ams-euler
{/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-ams-euler.map}
fonts          : using map file: original-public-lm
{/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-public-lm.map}
fonts          : using map file: qpl-ec
{/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/tex-gyre/qpl-ec.map}
fonts          : using map file: original-youngryu-px
{/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-youngryu-px.map}
[1.1]
systems        : end file a at line 9
 ){/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/tex-gyre/q-ec.enc}
! Emergency stop.
<*> a.tex

fclose: Bad file descriptor
fclose: Bad file descriptor
!  ==> Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!

----------------------

The output of XeTeX is to be expected, but I don't know why the map
file is loaded at all.

) (/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-tmf.tex)
(/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-otf.tex
(/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-tmf.tex)
(/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-otf.tex)
(/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-xtx.tex)
(/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-gyr.tex)
(/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-tmf.tex)
(/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-otf.tex)
(/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-xtx.tex)
(/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-gyr.tex)
(/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-tmf.tex)
(/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-otf.tex)
(/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-xtx.tex)
(/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-gyr.tex)
(/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-tmf.tex)
(/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-otf.tex)
(/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-xtx.tex)
(/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-gyr.tex)
(/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-tmf.tex)
(/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-otf.tex)
(/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-xtx.tex)
(/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-gyr.tex)
(/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-tmf.tex)
(/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-otf.tex)
(/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-xtx.tex)
(/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-gyr.tex))
(./a.tuo) (./a.tuo) (./a.tuo) (./a.tuo) (./a.tuo) (./a.tuo) (./a.tuo) (./a.tuo)
(./a.tuo) (./a.tuo) (./a.tuo) (./a.tuo)
systems         : begin file a at line 4
fonts           : resetting map file list
fonts           : using map file: original-base
fonts           : using map file: lm-math
fonts           : using map file: lm-rm
fonts           : using map file: texnansi-base
fonts           : using map file: ec-base
fonts           : using map file: qx-base
fonts           : using map file: t5-base
fonts           : using map file: 8r-base
fonts           : using map file: original-ams-base
fonts           : using map file: original-ams-euler
fonts           : using map file: original-public-lm
fonts           : using map file: qpl-ec
fonts           : using map file: original-youngryu-px
(/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/sort-def.tex
(/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/sort-def.mkii))
(/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/sort-lan.tex
loading         : Context Sorting Macros (languages)
(/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/sort-lan.mkii))
[1.1]
systems         : end file a at line 9
 )
stdin -> a.pdf
[1
** WARNING ** This .map file looks like a dvips format fontmap file.
** WARNING ** -- Current input buffer is: ec-qplr
TeXGyrePagella-Regular "encqec ReEncodeFont" <q-ec.enc <qplr.pfb
** WARNING ** -- Reading fontmap file stopped at: file="qpl-ec.map", line=8.
** WARNING ** Could not locate a virtual/physical font for TFM "ec-qplr".
** WARNING ** >> There are no valid font mapping entry for this font.
** WARNING ** >> Font file name "ec-qplr" was assumed but failed to
locate that font.
** ERROR ** Cannot proceed without .vf or "physical" font for PDF output...

Output file removed.
(see the transcript file for additional information)
Error 256 (driver return code) generating output;
file a.pdf may not be valid.
Transcript written on a.log.
TeXUtil | parsing file a.tui


Mojca
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Re: first steps

[Taco Hoekwater]

Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> systems        : end file a at line 9
>  ){/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/tex-gyre/q-ec.enc}
> ! Emergency stop.
> <*> a.tex
> 
> fclose: Bad file descriptor
> fclose: Bad file descriptor
> !  ==> Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!

My luatex happily reports

{/opt/tex/texmf-local/fonts/map/dvips/tex-gyre/qpl-ec.map}
fonts          : using map file: original-youngryu-px
{/opt/tex/texmf-project/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-youngryu-px.map} 
[1.1]
systems        : end file pal at line 6
  )</opt/tex/texmf-local/fonts/type1/public/tex-gyre/qplr.pfb>


Here it seems it doesn't load the encoding file because it
loads ec-qplr:afm (unicode encoding), yours probably loads
ec-qplr:tfm (ec encodign).

Perhaps qplr.pfb is missing? The crash could be a luatex bug then,
it is definately possible there is an incorrect fclose(NULL)
somewhere when the enc is there but the pfb isn't.  Can you
try that please?

The actully using pfb instead of otf sounds like a mkiv problem.

Best wishes,
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Re: first steps

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>
>
>  Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>  > systems        : end file a at line 9
>  >  ){/Users/mojca/context/tex/texmf/fonts/enc/dvips/tex-gyre/q-ec.enc}
>  > ! Emergency stop.
>  > <*> a.tex
>  >
>  > fclose: Bad file descriptor
>  > fclose: Bad file descriptor
>  > !  ==> Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!
>
>  My luatex happily reports
>
>  {/opt/tex/texmf-local/fonts/map/dvips/tex-gyre/qpl-ec.map}
>
> fonts          : using map file: original-youngryu-px
>  {/opt/tex/texmf-project/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-youngryu-px.map}
>  [1.1]
>  systems        : end file pal at line 6
>   )</opt/tex/texmf-local/fonts/type1/public/tex-gyre/qplr.pfb>
>
>
>  Here it seems it doesn't load the encoding file because it
>  loads ec-qplr:afm (unicode encoding), yours probably loads
>  ec-qplr:tfm (ec encodign).

I have indeed removed all the afm files from the font, if that's part
of your question.

>  Perhaps qplr.pfb is missing?

I have it on the disk, but it doesn't get so far to load it (maybe
because it crashes before, or I don't know).

>  The crash could be a luatex bug then,
>  it is definately possible there is an incorrect fclose(NULL)
>  somewhere when the enc is there but the pfb isn't.  Can you
>  try that please?

qplr.pfb is there, but even if I remove it :) nothing changes.

>  The actully using pfb instead of otf sounds like a mkiv problem.

mkii as well. The same problem happens in XeTeX (not with fclose, but
alone the fact that the old fonts are used instead of otf).

Mojca
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Re: first steps

[Hans Hagen]

Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>>  Here's a minimal example for Hans & Taco:
>>
>>  \usetypescriptfile[type-gyr]
>>
>> \usetypescript[palatino]
>>  \setupbodyfont[palatino,12pt]
>>  \starttext
>>  ab\ccaron
>>  \stoptext

i cannot reproduce the crash/problems on my machine

> The output of XeTeX is to be expected, but I don't know why the map
> file is loaded at all.

you mean that for xetex map files are loaded? if we can assumt that 
xetex users use open type fonts we can avoid that (at some point we can 
drop transition from type1/otf)

Hans

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Re: first steps

[Taco Hoekwater]

Hans Hagen wrote:
> Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>>>  Here's a minimal example for Hans & Taco:
>>>
>>>  \usetypescriptfile[type-gyr]
>>>
>>> \usetypescript[palatino]
>>>  \setupbodyfont[palatino,12pt]
>>>  \starttext
>>>  ab\ccaron
>>>  \stoptext
> 
> i cannot reproduce the crash/problems on my machine
> 
>> The output of XeTeX is to be expected, but I don't know why the map
>> file is loaded at all.
> 
> you mean that for xetex map files are loaded? if we can assumt that 
> xetex users use open type fonts we can avoid that (at some point we can 
> drop transition from type1/otf)

Well, that's the thing: it seems to us that whenever context finds PFB 
files for the tex-gyre fonts (qplr.tfm&pfb in this case), it will use
those, totally ignoring any opentype fonts that are also installed.




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Re: first steps

[Hans Hagen]

Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> Hans Hagen wrote:
>> Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>>>>  Here's a minimal example for Hans & Taco:
>>>>
>>>>  \usetypescriptfile[type-gyr]
>>>>
>>>> \usetypescript[palatino]
>>>>  \setupbodyfont[palatino,12pt]
>>>>  \starttext
>>>>  ab\ccaron
>>>>  \stoptext
>> i cannot reproduce the crash/problems on my machine
>>
>>> The output of XeTeX is to be expected, but I don't know why the map
>>> file is loaded at all.
>> you mean that for xetex map files are loaded? if we can assumt that 
>> xetex users use open type fonts we can avoid that (at some point we can 
>> drop transition from type1/otf)
> 
> Well, that's the thing: it seems to us that whenever context finds PFB 
> files for the tex-gyre fonts (qplr.tfm&pfb in this case), it will use
> those, totally ignoring any opentype fonts that are also installed.

hm, this puzzles me because i have afm/pfb/otf on my system




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Re: first steps

[Taco Hoekwater]

Hans Hagen wrote:>> Well, that's the thing: it seems to us that whenever 
context finds PFB
>> files for the tex-gyre fonts (qplr.tfm&pfb in this case), it will use
>> those, totally ignoring any opentype fonts that are also installed.
> 
> hm, this puzzles me because i have afm/pfb/otf on my system

tfm too? I only get the problem if the qplr.tfm is found
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Re: first steps

[Hans Hagen]

Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> Hans Hagen wrote:>> Well, that's the thing: it seems to us that whenever 
> context finds PFB
>>> files for the tex-gyre fonts (qplr.tfm&pfb in this case), it will use
>>> those, totally ignoring any opentype fonts that are also installed.
>> hm, this puzzles me because i have afm/pfb/otf on my system
> 
> tfm too? I only get the problem if the qplr.tfm is found

 >luatools --all *qplr.*
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/t2b-qplr.tfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/ts1-qplr.tfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/afm/public/tex-gyre/qplr.afm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/t2a-qplr.tfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/t2c-qplr.tfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/type1/public/tex-gyre/qplri.pfb
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/tex4ht/ht-fonts/alias/qfonts/qplr.htf
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/type1/public/tex-gyre/qplr.pfb
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/rm-qplri.tfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/texnansi-qplr-sc.tfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/rm-qplr.tfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/t2b-qplri.tfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/t2c-qplri.tfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/t2a-qplri.tfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/t5-qplri-sc.tfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/t5-qplr.tfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/qx-qplri-sc.tfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/el-qplri-sc.tfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/ec-qplri-sc.tfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/el-qplri.tfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/cs-qplri.tfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/cs-qplr-sc.tfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/cs-qplr.tfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/ec-qplr.tfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/ec-qplri.tfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/l7x-qplri-sc.tfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/l7x-qplr.tfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/el-qplr-sc.tfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/el-qplr.tfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/qx-qplri.tfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/qx-qplr-sc.tfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/qx-qplr.tfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/t5-qplr-sc.tfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/texnansi-qplri-sc.tfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/ts1-qplri.tfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/afm/public/tex-gyre/qplri.afm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/type1/public/tex-gyre/qplr.pfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/rm-qplr-sc.tfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/l7x-qplr-sc.tfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/type1/public/tex-gyre/qplri.pfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/rm-qplri-sc.tfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/ec-qplr-sc.tfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/tex4ht/ht-fonts/alias/qfonts/qplri.htf
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/l7x-qplri.tfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/texnansi-qplr.tfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/cs-qplri-sc.tfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/t5-qplri.tfm
c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/texnansi-qplri.tfm

so. i have them all, luatex reports ...

)<c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/type1/public/tex-gyre/qplr.pfb>

and mkiv:

file:lmroman10-bolditalic*default:otf file:lmroman10-italic*default:otf 
file:lmroman12-bold*default:otf file:lmroman12-italic*default:otf 
file:lmroman12-regular*default:otf file:lmroman7-bold*default:otf 
file:lmroman7-regular*default:otf file:lmroman9-bold*default:otf 
file:lmroman9-italic*default:otf file:lmroman9-regular*default:otf 
file:lmromancaps10-oblique*default:otf 
file:lmromanslant10-bold*default:otf 
file:lmromanslant10-regular*default:otf 
file:lmromanslant12-regular*default:otf 
file:lmromanslant9-regular*default:otf lmex10:tfm lmmi12:tfm lmmi7:tfm 
lmmi9:tfm lmsy10:tfm lmsy7:tfm lmsy9:tfm msam10:tfm msam7:tfm msbm10:tfm 
msbm7:tfm pxex:tfm pxmi:tfm pxr:tfm pxsy:tfm pxsya:tfm pxsyb:tfm 
rm-lmr12:tfm rm-lmr7:tfm rm-lmr9:tfm rpxmi:tfm rpxpplr:tfm rpxpplri:tfm 
rpxr:tfm texnansi-qplb:afm texnansi-qplbi:afm texnansi-qplr:afm 
texnansi-qplr-sc:afm texnansi-qplri:afm

which means that an afm file is used (maybe i should omit the texnansi- 
then in the message)



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Re: first steps

[Hans van der Meer]

On 9 apr 2008, at 19:59, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>> Hans Hagen wrote:>> Well, that's the thing: it seems to us that  
>> whenever
>> context finds PFB
>>>> files for the tex-gyre fonts (qplr.tfm&pfb in this case), it will  
>>>> use
>>>> those, totally ignoring any opentype fonts that are also installed.
>>> hm, this puzzles me because i have afm/pfb/otf on my system
>>
>> tfm too? I only get the problem if the qplr.tfm is found
>
>> luatools --all *qplr.*
> c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/t2b-qplr.tfm
> c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/ts1-qplr.tfm
> c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/afm/public/tex-gyre/qplr.afm

That's strange. Here this command gives:
103 ~: luatools --all *qplr.*
/usr/local/texlive/2007/bin/powerpc-darwin/luatools:4392: bad argument  
#1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil)

allthough:

104 ~: find /usr/local -name *qplr.*
/usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-dist/fonts/afm/public/tex-gyre/qplr.afm
/usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-dist/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/cs-qplr.tfm
/usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf-dist/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/ec-qplr.tfm
....

Any idea what can be wrong?

Not all can be wrong though, because
	texmfstart texexec --luatex luatest1.tex
typesets a file containing lua code.

Hans van der Meer

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Re: first steps

[Taco Hoekwater]

Hans van der Meer wrote:
> 
> That's strange. Here this command gives:
> 103 ~: luatools --all *qplr.*
> /usr/local/texlive/2007/bin/powerpc-darwin/luatools:4392: bad argument  
> #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil)

Could be a badly quoted filename, somewhere. Does asking for
the full name work? Like this I mean:

   luatools qplr.afm

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Re: first steps

[Hans Hagen]

Hans van der Meer wrote:
> On 9 apr 2008, at 19:59, Hans Hagen wrote:
> 
>> Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>>> Hans Hagen wrote:>> Well, that's the thing: it seems to us that  
>>> whenever
>>> context finds PFB
>>>>> files for the tex-gyre fonts (qplr.tfm&pfb in this case), it will  
>>>>> use
>>>>> those, totally ignoring any opentype fonts that are also installed.
>>>> hm, this puzzles me because i have afm/pfb/otf on my system
>>> tfm too? I only get the problem if the qplr.tfm is found
>>> luatools --all *qplr.*
>> c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/t2b-qplr.tfm
>> c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/ts1-qplr.tfm
>> c:/data/develop/tex/texmf/fonts/afm/public/tex-gyre/qplr.afm
> 
> That's strange. Here this command gives:
> 103 ~: luatools --all *qplr.*
> /usr/local/texlive/2007/bin/powerpc-darwin/luatools:4392: bad argument  
> #1 to 'pairs' (table expected, got nil)

hm, just make sure that you use the luatools that is in the context zip


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Re: first steps

[Hans Hagen]

Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> Hans Hagen wrote:
>> Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>>>>  Here's a minimal example for Hans & Taco:
>>>>
>>>>  \usetypescriptfile[type-gyr]
>>>>
>>>> \usetypescript[palatino]
>>>>  \setupbodyfont[palatino,12pt]
>>>>  \starttext
>>>>  ab\ccaron
>>>>  \stoptext
>> i cannot reproduce the crash/problems on my machine
>>
>>> The output of XeTeX is to be expected, but I don't know why the map
>>> file is loaded at all.
>> you mean that for xetex map files are loaded? if we can assumt that 
>> xetex users use open type fonts we can avoid that (at some point we can 
>> drop transition from type1/otf)
> 
> Well, that's the thing: it seems to us that whenever context finds PFB 
> files for the tex-gyre fonts (qplr.tfm&pfb in this case), it will use
> those, totally ignoring any opentype fonts that are also installed.

ah, i see

at the top of type-gyr.tex add:

\beginNEWTEX already-otf-gyre
     \endinput
\endNEWTEX

the type-gyr is only meant for type one usage and maybe we should merge 
this info in type-one (assuming that context users now have gyre on 
their system)

however, even with pfb i don't get the error, so this is still something 
weird

Hans


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Re: first steps

[Taco Hoekwater]

Hans Hagen wrote:
> 
> however, even with pfb i don't get the error, so this is still something 
> weird

It is an array access that goes out of bounds, so it could be
somewhat system-dependent. It will _certainly_ only happen if the
tfm is used, the afm-based font is in wide encoding, and that is
perfectly safe as it doesnt need to array indices at all.

The "fclose" errors are just a side-effect of the real crash
and happen after that has already happened. The crash
manifests itself as just another

   ! Emergency stop.
   <*> a.tex

But like I said, it may not happen always. Out of bounds errors
do that, sometimes.

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Re: first steps

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>  >>  Here's a minimal example for Hans & Taco:
>  >>
>  >>  \usetypescriptfile[type-gyr]
>  >>
>  >> \usetypescript[palatino]
>  >>  \setupbodyfont[palatino,12pt]
>  >>  \starttext
>  >>  ab\ccaron
>  >>  \stoptext
>
>  i cannot reproduce the crash/problems on my machine

One needs to delete afm files (without using Taco's latest patch).

>  > The output of XeTeX is to be expected, but I don't know why the map
>  > file is loaded at all.
>
>  you mean that for xetex map files are loaded? if we can assumt that
>  xetex users use open type fonts we can avoid that (at some point we can
>  drop transition from type1/otf)

Sure. But there is one thing that I don't understand and needs to be
resolved even before adding NEWTEX on top of type-gyr. Why are the
Type 1 fonts used at all? If I say \usetyscript[postscript] (no
[ec]!!!), why do I get the Type 1 fonts instead of OpenType? Shouldn't
a couple of additional definitions with ec/texnansi encoding be rather
harmless (i.e. should not influence OpenType fonts)?

Mojca
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Re: first steps

[Hans Hagen]

Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>>  >>  Here's a minimal example for Hans & Taco:
>>  >>
>>  >>  \usetypescriptfile[type-gyr]
>>  >>
>>  >> \usetypescript[palatino]
>>  >>  \setupbodyfont[palatino,12pt]
>>  >>  \starttext
>>  >>  ab\ccaron
>>  >>  \stoptext
>>
>>  i cannot reproduce the crash/problems on my machine
> 
> One needs to delete afm files (without using Taco's latest patch).
> 
>>  > The output of XeTeX is to be expected, but I don't know why the map
>>  > file is loaded at all.
>>
>>  you mean that for xetex map files are loaded? if we can assumt that
>>  xetex users use open type fonts we can avoid that (at some point we can
>>  drop transition from type1/otf)
> 
> Sure. But there is one thing that I don't understand and needs to be
> resolved even before adding NEWTEX on top of type-gyr. Why are the
> Type 1 fonts used at all? If I say \usetyscript[postscript] (no
> [ec]!!!), why do I get the Type 1 fonts instead of OpenType? Shouldn't
> a couple of additional definitions with ec/texnansi encoding be rather
> harmless (i.e. should not influence OpenType fonts)?

we use names like TimesRomen-Bold internally and type-gyr maps to pfb 
variants and since it is loaded *after* the otf definitions it wins

Hans

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