From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/40092 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: MkIV and DVI output Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 09:13:07 +0200 Message-ID: <48006103.9030000@wxs.nl> References: <115224fb0804110228g7ef8e7ak9015f7b89c1d814@mail.gmail.com> <47FF3332.40908@wxs.nl> <47FF8578.3050104@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1207984493 29957 80.91.229.12 (12 Apr 2008 07:14:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 07:14:53 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sat Apr 12 09:15:26 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JkZxO-0000QF-6I for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 09:15:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 806D01FB33; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 09:14:46 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 24263-01; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 09:14:09 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D3DB1FBB8; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 09:14:09 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 208A31FBB8 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 09:14:07 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 20261-04-15 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 09:13:32 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail.pragma-ade.net (dsl-083-247-100-017.solcon.nl [83.247.100.17]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 376971FADF for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 09:13:32 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [10.100.1.100] (unverified [10.100.1.100]) by controller-1 (SurgeMail 3.7b8) with ESMTP id 12485 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 09:13:32 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) In-Reply-To: X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com r=-274017400 X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-1 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:40092 Archived-At: luigi scarso wrote: > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 5:36 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: >> luigi scarso wrote: >> >> at some point i will redo the backends, but i wonder if it really m= akes >> >> sense to support dvi any longer; i'd rather prepare for future form= ats >> > xps ? >> >> mars > A very nice subject to discuss here at pdf/a conference with Leonard Rose= nthal > (why use a pdf format for archiving, and in the same moment push mars? > mars can be XML->PDF->XML) > But I did'nt want to do that. > I have talkd last year in italy with Olaf Dr=FCmmer, he said the mars is > still an experiment . > From my point of view xml is better for long term archiving. xml is to bulky for an output format (apart from the slower parsing), so = i wonder if it is that good as format for final products; of course = xml may be handier to manipulate afterwards (which is something we = somethines need to do with third party inclusions) but that can be = crippled by encriptions, compression etc; in my opinion xml should be = readable and this somewhat conflicts with compression and binary chunks = (fonts) and encryption etc .. in that case one gets angle brackets = instead of objects and the rest stays the same (a bit comparable with = svg, which just packages huge amounts of path info in attributes (kind = of rediculous to use attributes for that); xml is nice, but nor for = everything we'll see Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________= ________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-cont= ext webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________= ________