From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/40123 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: new version luatex / mkiv Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:47:45 +0200 Message-ID: <48012E01.28680.2AAF86E@wwl.musensturm.de> References: Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1208029286 22295 80.91.229.12 (12 Apr 2008 19:41:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 19:41:26 +0000 (UTC) To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sat Apr 12 21:41:59 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jklbk-0001sj-8P for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:41:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F731FBFD; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:41:12 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 04139-01-2; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:40:31 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF44C1FBB9; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:40:10 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 609AE1FB89 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:39:49 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 02154-04-10 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:39:10 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.188]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 182D61FB33 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:39:10 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [192.168.178.20] (frnk-590d014d.pool.einsundeins.de [89.13.1.77]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu6) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0ML29c-1JklZ72MBq-0008Mk; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:39:09 +0200 Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41, DE v4.41 R1) Content-description: Mail message body X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+acimY8ihvGnkGgOmJ38oC5I5RDjxt5Lq2MVy mIElvxawvH4jYqUJGU1PtTeHQ+nFoInS5XnTTyjWrLxpFAm/qi hSgRo+bMwAT/MtAEqaAXgtHomcsD5tn X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:40123 Archived-At: On 12 Apr 2008 at 12:00, ntg-context-request@ntg.nl wrote: Hallo Taco, > Real API documentation will be provided once I am past the "alpha" > release stage. At the moment, I do not trust the API enough to > expose it to anything except controlled environments (lua mplib, > newmpost) > > >> Isn't mplib a dll under windows? > > It is possible to build the unix version as a .so because support > for that comes from autofoo automatically, but that is not yet > officially supported: debugging dynamic libraries is harder than > debugging static code. On the other side, it is very easy to replace a dll by a new version, if the interface stays stable. > MPlib could become a dll on windows eventually, but first someone > will have to explain to me how to create a windows dll (and I vastly > prefer a solution that does not involve me having to pay Microsoft any > money). You have not to pay anything, to build a Dll. And there is Msys for example, which works in a unix-environment under windows. Should be no problem. > I have exactly zero knowledge in that area and do not have a > Windows installation either: the one and only XP machine here is my > wife's gaming machine and that is strictly offlimits to me. :-) > Future versions of luatex and mpost itself (and potential other > texlive programs) will almost certainly remain statically linked > because that is much more convenient for us as maintainers. If there is more than one program, which is using mplib, you have to update all theses programs, if you make some mplib changes. But I think that a dll could very much boost the metapost usage. It would than be very easy to write third party software. Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________