From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/40312 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: luatex feature question/request Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:50:19 +0200 Message-ID: <4805BDCB.3060604@wxs.nl> References: <47F5DDDF.9040304@wxs.nl> <47F5E7D3.407@elvenkind.com> <47F5EC67.9020903@elvenkind.com> <5c2c86e70804040158o712ab1ben88b69b0d794109cc@mail.gmail.com> <47F5EFF5.9040109@wxs.nl> <5c2c86e70804040402w4574e8e0q6f27e13fb404cdd@mail.gmail.com> <47F61E93.6050408@wxs.nl> <5c2c86e70804040609x6f9beb7bu6441e2fc20db1161@mail.gmail.com> <4804FF82.8010003@wxs.nl> <20080416004030.GE15659@phare.normalesup.org> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1208335959 7605 80.91.229.12 (16 Apr 2008 08:52:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 08:52:39 +0000 (UTC) To: Mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Apr 16 10:52:56 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jm3NE-0001Db-UG for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:52:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ED681FCCE; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:51:28 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 06380-07-2; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:51:11 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0273F1FC8E; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:51:11 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56AA01FC72 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:51:09 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 05694-06-3 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:50:39 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail.pragma-ade.net (dsl-083-247-100-017.solcon.nl [83.247.100.17]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B3841FC8E for ; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:50:35 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [10.100.1.100] (unverified [10.100.1.100]) by controller-1 (SurgeMail 3.7b8) with ESMTP id 13603 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:50:30 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) In-Reply-To: <20080416004030.GE15659@phare.normalesup.org> X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com r=-274017400 X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-1 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:40312 Archived-At: Arthur Reutenauer wrote: >> but if we support such a >> thing, we need a better specification; there are probably more space >> related chars that needs treatment then > > There's not much to it, actually. There are some space characters in > Unicode, and we should handle them as much Unicode-compliantly as > possible; and there are some particular typographic conventions on top > of that, for each language. It's easy to come up with a simple scheme > to support both, and I've already outlined it on a different > mailing-list (http://tug.org/pipermail/xetex/2008-February/008529.html). > The problem is to decide how much of the users' old typing habits we this is indeed an important point ... we don't want to cripple default behaviour by that (we already have -- --- and such) the problem with all these automatisms is that it then becomes impossible to do something verbatim, i.e bypass those mechamisms > want to take in account (and, Olivier, another message by me in the same > thread addresses the exact same issues you were raising a few days ago: > http://tug.org/pipermail/xetex/2008-February/008533.html). > I can discuss that with you at BachoTeX, Hans. It's best done around > a beer or two, anyway ;-) sure, enough beer at bachotek anyway ... Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________