From: Dietrich Rordorf / MDPI <rordorf@mdpi.org>
To: ntg-context@ntg.nl
Subject: Re: Bibliographic Databases
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:03:41 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <480C829D.60208@mdpi.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.0.1208685601.23025.ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Hi All,
Why not try an existing, online tool.? There are severals, most of them
support export to various formats, e.g. BibTeX, RIS, EndNote, etc.. Some
of them have a Word plug-in, too.
http://www.connotea.org/
Free online reference management tool for scientists
Nature Publishing Group
http://www.citeulike.org/
Free online reference management tool for scientists
Oversity Ldt.
http://www.bibsonomy.org/
Free online reference management tool for scientists
University of Kassel
http://www.zotero.org/
Free online reference management tool for scientists
WordPress
http://www.2collab.com/
Free online group collaboration tool for scientists
Elsevier B.V.
Otherwaise, for Desktop solutions see a comparision:
Reference Management Software Comparison:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_reference_management_software
http://mahbub.wordpress.com/2007/03/04/comparison-of-free-bibliographic-managers/
Dietrich
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> Subject:
> Re: [NTG-context] Bibliographic Databases
> From:
> Robin Kirkham <robin.kirkham@csiro.au>
> Date:
> Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:13:28 +1000
> To:
> ntg-context@ntg.nl
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> To:
> ntg-context@ntg.nl
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>
> On 20 April 2008, "George N. White III" <gnwiii@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Robin Kirkham
>> <robin.kirkham@csiro.au> wrote:
>>
>>> I want to set up a shared bibliographic reference database for my
>>> research group, [...]
>>
>> I can tell you a few things that don't work! In our lab we have both
>> TeX and Word users. Many of them had been using a DOS package
>> called papyrus, using a special markup that could be translated
>> to tex (.bbl) files. Nothing we found was really satisfactory, so
>> we bought EndNote, which could import from papyrus via "refer"
>> format and can export to "almost bibtex". One problem is that
>> EndNote uses unicode, so we end up with è, etc. that must
>> be translated for some user's versions of bibtex. The database
>> now has a nearly infinite variety of different quote marks:
>> `a`, 'a', ``a'', "a", etc. depending on how the entry was made
>> (many are pasted from online or pdf sources).
>>
>> EndNote is really designed for individual users, although sold
>> in bulk. If 2 people open the same database on a shared
>> drive they end up with a corrupt database.
>>
>> In my view, a bibliographic database needs to store each
>> reference in the "source" or original format, whether bibtex,
>> refer, or one of the newer forms, and provide translators
>> and version tracking, so each file can have forks for different
>> uses (e.g., ascii vs unicode char. sets) and edits can be
>> preserved for the next user. In practice, people just dump
>> selected refs to a bib file, make the .bbl file, and fix problems
>> there, so fixes rarely make it back to the master database.
>> If they did, we would still have accents and quote marks
>> being switched back and forth depending on who last used
>> the entry.
>
>
> Thanks George. EndNote is I believe the corporately-approved solution
> here, and similar disasters occur when people try and share its data
> files. For this reason I don't call these sorts of personal-level
> programs "databases" (any more than I'll call a .bib file a database).
>
> The TeX folk don't fare much better. Multiple personal .bib files are
> common, often with duplicate references but different citation keys,
> leading to rather variable results depending on who run LaTeX/ConTeXt
> on the file. Inconsistency in data entry is also a problem, although
> for us, accents and quotes don't seem to too big a problem.
> (`Authorless', i.e., corporate author documents, like data sheets,
> seems to be more of an issue).
>
> For this reason I'm looking for a proper SQL database solution like
> refdb or refbase (or maybe wikindx, thanks Andreas) with a web
> front-end that will hopefully enforce somewhat more consistent data
> entry, and maybe even auto-generate citation keys. Taco, your remarks
> regarding interchange formats are valuable (both refdb and refbase
> support MODS XML output).
>
> Robin
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2008-04-21 12:03 ` Dietrich Rordorf / MDPI [this message]
2008-04-20 9:13 Robin Kirkham
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2008-04-17 14:19 Robin Kirkham
2008-04-17 19:10 ` Andreas Wagner
2008-04-18 8:08 ` Taco Hoekwater
2008-04-18 8:15 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2008-04-18 15:17 ` Andreas Wagner
2008-04-18 17:46 ` Taco Hoekwater
2008-04-18 23:23 ` Andreas Wagner
2008-04-20 14:35 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2008-04-20 14:52 ` Bruce D\'Arcus
2008-04-19 19:21 ` George N. White III
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