From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/41207 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: fonts and typescripts Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 19:15:54 +0200 Message-ID: <483AF04A.3080401@wxs.nl> References: <1211730426.16006.42.camel@elbereth> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1211827496 2649 80.91.229.12 (26 May 2008 18:44:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 18:44:56 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon May 26 20:45:35 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K0hhO-0007gi-Mp for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 26 May 2008 20:45:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C9691FB6D; Mon, 26 May 2008 20:44:45 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 14392-08-8; Mon, 26 May 2008 20:44:06 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66CBD1FCBB; Mon, 26 May 2008 19:16:40 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89D381FC93 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 19:16:32 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 09702-01-3 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 19:15:56 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail.pragma-ade.net (dsl-083-247-100-017.solcon.nl [83.247.100.17]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A621FC5D for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 19:15:55 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [10.100.1.100] (unverified [10.100.1.100]) by controller-1 (SurgeMail 3.9e) with ESMTP id 8672-1840426 for ; Mon, 26 May 2008 19:15:54 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) In-Reply-To: <1211730426.16006.42.camel@elbereth> X-Originating-IP: 10.100.1.100 X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-1 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:41207 Archived-At: Charles P. Schaum wrote: > Here's an interesting point: InDesign creates ligatures, but > irrespective of what is going on in the actual font. So, unless you use > Unicode Greek, Hebrew, Syriac, Arabic, or whatever, the older style > fonts that still inhabit the commercial multilingual industry get > mangled. TeX and friends are smart and don't do that. They can handle > some complicated typography more robustly than many others. i'm currently reading a books with is typeset quite ok (in optima) but occasionally uses smallcaps with intercharacter spacing which looks ok apart form the occasional ligature and indeed fi a b c d liiks kin dof strange; it always puzzles me why professional dtp programs don't deal with it anyhow, in context mkiv (luatex version) we will have way more control than we have now > InDesign and InCopy use a version control system where one can "check > out," "check in," and track changes in a parallel workflow. Grep how do they deal with non compatible new features; for instance, at bachotek i learned that some otf features that are not supported in older versions are supported in new ones (or are supported differently); is there some compatibility mode (i.e. is the old behavior still present and the ID/IC version number stored in the document?) > searching has also been integrated. It seems to me that if something > like Scribus had a means to interlink with ConTeXt, cvs / svn or the > like, and had a means of automatically generating code and previews, you > would have a typesetting system that could compete feature for feature > with InDesign and InCopy, and surpass it in some cases. well, that's the idea -) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________