From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/41294 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: How could a typesetting system be today? Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 23:23:14 +0200 Message-ID: <4841C1C2.4040905@wxs.nl> References: <68bfdc900805300012o789c12ebi15cb7ec3e0f10155@mail.gmail.com> <68bfdc900805300524r38f327acg88e766ea5a159acc@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1212269085 1361 80.91.229.12 (31 May 2008 21:24:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 21:24:45 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sat May 31 23:25:26 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K2YZo-0001mn-IS for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Sat, 31 May 2008 23:25:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A0FD1FBCC; Sat, 31 May 2008 23:24:36 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 12679-02; Sat, 31 May 2008 23:23:57 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35F281FC1B; Sat, 31 May 2008 23:23:56 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50F8F1FC1B for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 23:23:51 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 12544-05 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 23:23:18 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail.pragma-ade.net (dsl-083-247-100-017.solcon.nl [83.247.100.17]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id F07F71FBCC for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 23:23:17 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [10.100.1.100] (unverified [10.100.1.100]) by controller-1 (SurgeMail 3.9e) with ESMTP id 9845-1840426 for ; Sat, 31 May 2008 23:23:17 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) In-Reply-To: X-Originating-IP: 10.100.1.100 X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-1 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:41294 Archived-At: luigi scarso wrote: >> - optical (vs. metrical) kerning > hz ? all those kerning options can lead to rather bad text ... i get the impression that wrongly applied hz (extreme values) and intercharacter spacing and such in general lead to bad text ... i read quite some books and am sometimes puzzled by the completely different and inconstent 'look and feel' of typeset paragraphs (that could be done better by tex) ... too many degrees of freedom may not be a good idea >> - a GUI ;-) and thus layout by "let's try how it looks" > true just develop styles using small samples, not whole books -) >> - better page breaking constraints (you can define in your style >> sheets "keep n lines together" and "keep this together with the next >> paragraph) > maybe (hans/taco help needed here ) i have an experimental mechanism for weighted skips and penalties for mkiv; keep in mind that traditional tex only looks forward (unless you do trickery which in itself has side effects) >> - PDF/X output pdftex is mostl pdf/x (depends on what trickery the macro package does) >> - color profile conversions tex treats graphics as abstractions which is why it could survive so long keep in mind that normally one only needs to 'convert' a graphic once, so that can be done externally; in dtp one often works with copies (we see projects with the same 25 meg graphic copied all over the placs) and i assume that in say indesign graphics are also converted once (too much a slow downer otherwise) in context one can do some trickery with turning gray scale images to multitone but that a well kept secret -) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________