Latest beta + LuaTeX

Latest beta + LuaTeX

[Otared Kavian]

Dear magicians,

I just updated to the latest betas (ConTeXt and LuaTeX taken on
svn://scm.foundry.supelec.fr/svn/luatex
and I tried to build luatex on my machine (MacBook Pro under Mac OS X  
10.5.4): everything goes fine, the binary is there, that is in
trunk/build/texk/web2c/luatex
but trying to make the formats (as I did usually thanks to the  
directives given by Thomas Schmitz), I get an error message saying this:

! Emergency stop.
\lastexpanded ->\endtemplate
                              \global \everyloadluacode {}
\ctxluabyteload ..."#2" } \stopruntimectxluacode }
                                                   \ctxlua  
{ lua.bytedata[\th...
\registerctxluafile ...se \ctxluabyteload {#1}{#2}
                                                   \fi \global  
\everyloadluac...
l.165 \registerctxluafile{luat-env}{1.001}

mkiv lua stats : used config path     - /usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf/ 
web2c/texmf.cnf

mkiv lua stats : used cache path      - /tmp

mkiv lua stats : input load time      - 0.067 seconds

mkiv lua stats : current memory usage - 6144468 bytes

mkiv lua stats : node memory usage    - 18 glue_spec, 1 if_stack, 1 dir

However ConTeXt mkii works fine.
Since I don't use yet extensively mkiv, I am just reporting the issue  
to inform the community.

With my best regards: OK
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Re: Latest beta + LuaTeX

[Taco Hoekwater]

Otared Kavian wrote:
> Dear magicians,
> 
> I just updated to the latest betas (ConTeXt and LuaTeX taken on
> svn://scm.foundry.supelec.fr/svn/luatex
> and I tried to build luatex on my machine (MacBook Pro under Mac OS X  
> 10.5.4): everything goes fine, the binary is there, that is in
> trunk/build/texk/web2c/luatex
> but trying to make the formats (as I did usually thanks to the  
> directives given by Thomas Schmitz), I get an error message saying this:
> 
> ! Emergency stop.

> Since I don't use yet extensively mkiv, I am just reporting the issue  
> to inform the community.

Thanks, for the heads up. The luatex trunk is a bit in flux at the
moment. We are trying to squeeze the previous half year of pdftex and
texlive development into it, and it takes some effort.

Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: Latest beta + LuaTeX

[Taco Hoekwater]

Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> 
> Thanks, for the heads up. The luatex trunk is a bit in flux at the
> moment. We are trying to squeeze the previous half year of pdftex and
> texlive development into it, and it takes some effort.

For the repository users of luatex: The trunk seems to be
compiling and running again.

Best wishes,
Taco

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Re: Latest beta + LuaTeX

[Peter Rolf]

Taco Hoekwater schrieb:
> 
> Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>> Thanks, for the heads up. The luatex trunk is a bit in flux at the
>> moment. We are trying to squeeze the previous half year of pdftex and
>> texlive development into it, and it takes some effort.
> 
> For the repository users of luatex: The trunk seems to be
> compiling and running again.
>
good news :)

will test asap. aside from one problem with png transparency (when the 
pdf is included, the picture shows the wrong background color) the 
luatex trunk (12-07-2008) works fine here.

best wishes, peter

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Re: Latest beta + LuaTeX

[Taco Hoekwater]

Peter Rolf wrote:
> Taco Hoekwater schrieb:
>> Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>>> Thanks, for the heads up. The luatex trunk is a bit in flux at the
>>> moment. We are trying to squeeze the previous half year of pdftex and
>>> texlive development into it, and it takes some effort.
>> For the repository users of luatex: The trunk seems to be
>> compiling and running again.
>>
> good news :)
> 
> will test asap. aside from one problem with png transparency (when the 
> pdf is included, the picture shows the wrong background color) the 
> luatex trunk (12-07-2008) works fine here.

(if you know how) can you try the same thing with pdftex 1.40.3 vs.
1.40.8 as well? There was a bugfix in pdftex 1.40.6 for Transparant
images cf. this bug report:

http://sarovar.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=896&group_id=106&atid=493

and it is possible that it has side-effects.

(if you don't know how) maybe you can send me the file(s)?

Best wishes,
Taco
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Re: Latest beta + LuaTeX

[Peter Rolf]

Taco Hoekwater schrieb:
> 
> Peter Rolf wrote:
>> Taco Hoekwater schrieb:
>>> Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>>>> Thanks, for the heads up. The luatex trunk is a bit in flux at the
>>>> moment. We are trying to squeeze the previous half year of pdftex and
>>>> texlive development into it, and it takes some effort.
>>> For the repository users of luatex: The trunk seems to be
>>> compiling and running again.
>>>
>> good news :)
>>
>> will test asap. aside from one problem with png transparency (when the 
>> pdf is included, the picture shows the wrong background color) the 
>> luatex trunk (12-07-2008) works fine here.
> 
> (if you know how) can you try the same thing with pdftex 1.40.3 vs.
> 1.40.8 as well? There was a bugfix in pdftex 1.40.6 for Transparant
> images cf. this bug report:
> 
> http://sarovar.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=896&group_id=106&atid=493
> 
> and it is possible that it has side-effects.
>
sure. if someone can point me to the windows binaries of pdftex 1.40.3 i 
can test that.

just some additional infos:
i have the following (different) versions of the included example pdf:

producer		included by pdftex 1.40.9-rc1
-----------------------------------------------------
luatex 0.22.2		ok
luatex 0.26		bug
luatex 0.28		bug
pdftex 1.40.9-rc1	bug

so it looks like pdftex is the source of the problem :)

> (if you don't know how) maybe you can send me the file(s)?
>
sorry, not an option. but i can send you the 'broken' pdf (>400k), so 
that you get an impression what i mean. i can also try to make a 
minimal, but if it doesn't show up under simplified conditions, there is 
not much that i can do.

best wishes, peter


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Re: Latest beta + LuaTeX

[Mojca Miklavec]

> sure. if someone can point me to the windows binaries of pdftex 1.40.3 i
> can test that.

Maybe the one from TeX Live 2007?
    http://www.tug.org/svn/texlive/trunk/Master/bin/win32/pdftex.exe?view=log

Mojca
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Re: Latest beta + LuaTeX

[Peter Rolf]

Mojca Miklavec schrieb:
>> sure. if someone can point me to the windows binaries of pdftex 1.40.3 i
>> can test that.
> 
> Maybe the one from TeX Live 2007?
>     http://www.tug.org/svn/texlive/trunk/Master/bin/win32/pdftex.exe?view=log
>
thank you Mojca (revision 5403).

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Re: Latest beta + LuaTeX

[Peter Rolf]

Mojca Miklavec schrieb:
>> sure. if someone can point me to the windows binaries of pdftex 1.40.3 i
>> can test that.
> 
> Maybe the one from TeX Live 2007?
>     http://www.tug.org/svn/texlive/trunk/Master/bin/win32/pdftex.exe?view=log
> 
one thing left: pdftex.pool is missing (the good old days with pool file) :(


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Re: Latest beta + LuaTeX

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Peter Rolf wrote:
> Mojca Miklavec schrieb:
>>> sure. if someone can point me to the windows binaries of pdftex 1.40.3 i
>>> can test that.
>>
>> Maybe the one from TeX Live 2007?
>>     http://www.tug.org/svn/texlive/trunk/Master/bin/win32/pdftex.exe?view=log
>>
> one thing left: pdftex.pool is missing (the good old days with pool file) :(

Try
   http://www.tug.org/svn/texlive/trunk/Master/texmf/web2c/?sortdir=down&pathrev=5403

(if that's the revision you wanted)

Or simply
   http://www.tug.org/svn/texlive/trunk/Master/texmf/web2c/pdftex.pool?view=log&sortdir=down&pathrev=8713

Mojca
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Re: Latest beta + LuaTeX

[Peter Rolf]

Taco Hoekwater schrieb:
> 
> Peter Rolf wrote:
>> Taco Hoekwater schrieb:
>>> Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>>>> Thanks, for the heads up. The luatex trunk is a bit in flux at the
>>>> moment. We are trying to squeeze the previous half year of pdftex and
>>>> texlive development into it, and it takes some effort.
>>> For the repository users of luatex: The trunk seems to be
>>> compiling and running again.
>>>
>> good news :)
>>
>> will test asap. aside from one problem with png transparency (when the 
>> pdf is included, the picture shows the wrong background color) the 
>> luatex trunk (12-07-2008) works fine here.
> 
> (if you know how) can you try the same thing with pdftex 1.40.3 vs.
> 1.40.8 as well? There was a bugfix in pdftex 1.40.6 for Transparant
> images cf. this bug report:
> 
> http://sarovar.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=896&group_id=106&atid=493
> 
> and it is possible that it has side-effects.
>
thanks Mojca. i found a pool that worked.

the results (don't continue to read if you want a happy end):

pdftex 1.40.3 produces a pdf, that shows no side effects when it's 
included by the same version of pdftex (1.40.3).
if i include that pdf with the current 1.40.9-rc1 i get the wrong color 
in the transparent area.
mh, who to blame? the producer or the collector?

as mentioned: i have an old version of that example pdf (made with 
luatex 0.22) that works ok with the rc1. i'm puzzled.


> (if you don't know how) maybe you can send me the file(s)?
> 
> Best wishes,
> Taco
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Re: Latest beta + LuaTeX

[Martin Schröder]

2008/7/16 Peter Rolf <indiego@gmx.net>:
> the results (don't continue to read if you want a happy end):
>
> pdftex 1.40.3 produces a pdf, that shows no side effects when it's
> included by the same version of pdftex (1.40.3).
> if i include that pdf with the current 1.40.9-rc1 i get the wrong color
> in the transparent area.
> mh, who to blame? the producer or the collector?

Both. :-{

Please open a bug for pdftex at sarovar and be sure to include all
relevant files, please.

Best
   Martin
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Re: Latest beta + LuaTeX

[Peter Rolf]

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Martin Schröder schrieb:
> 2008/7/16 Peter Rolf <indiego@gmx.net>:
>> the results (don't continue to read if you want a happy end):
>>
>> pdftex 1.40.3 produces a pdf, that shows no side effects when it's
>> included by the same version of pdftex (1.40.3).
>> if i include that pdf with the current 1.40.9-rc1 i get the wrong color
>> in the transparent area.
>> mh, who to blame? the producer or the collector?
> 
> Both. :-{
> 
> Please open a bug for pdftex at sarovar and be sure to include all
> relevant files, please.
>
mh, just made a 'minimal' example and it looks like this bug is not 
related to png transparency. this wasn't visible in my real world 
example (only transparent areas of the png were affected).
looks more like a mess of layer priorities to me (just guessing).

context example attached (inclusion.tex is the main file, testpdf.tex is 
the source for the included pdf).

so before i file a bug report, can someone confirm this? i used pdftex 
1.40.9-rc1 for this test.

cheers, peter

> Best
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Re: Latest beta + LuaTeX

[Peter Rolf]

Peter Rolf schrieb:
> Martin Schröder schrieb:
>> 2008/7/16 Peter Rolf <indiego@gmx.net>:
>>> the results (don't continue to read if you want a happy end):
>>>
>>> pdftex 1.40.3 produces a pdf, that shows no side effects when it's
>>> included by the same version of pdftex (1.40.3).
>>> if i include that pdf with the current 1.40.9-rc1 i get the wrong color
>>> in the transparent area.
>>> mh, who to blame? the producer or the collector?
>>
>> Both. :-{
>>
>> Please open a bug for pdftex at sarovar and be sure to include all
>> relevant files, please.
>>
> mh, just made a 'minimal' example and it looks like this bug is not 
> related to png transparency. this wasn't visible in my real world 
> example (only transparent areas of the png were affected).
> looks more like a mess of layer priorities to me (just guessing).
>
made some more tests. it's related to png transparency. without any 
transparency there are no problems.

> context example attached (inclusion.tex is the main file, testpdf.tex is 
> the source for the included pdf).
> 
> so before i file a bug report, can someone confirm this? i used pdftex 
> 1.40.9-rc1 for this test.
> 
> cheers, peter
> 
>> Best
>>    Martin
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Re: Latest beta + LuaTeX

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Peter Rolf wrote:
> Martin Schröder schrieb:
>>
>> 2008/7/16 Peter Rolf <indiego@gmx.net>:
>>>
>>> the results (don't continue to read if you want a happy end):
>>>
>>> pdftex 1.40.3 produces a pdf, that shows no side effects when it's
>>> included by the same version of pdftex (1.40.3).
>>> if i include that pdf with the current 1.40.9-rc1 i get the wrong color
>>> in the transparent area.
>>> mh, who to blame? the producer or the collector?
>>
>> Both. :-{
>>
>> Please open a bug for pdftex at sarovar and be sure to include all
>> relevant files, please.
>>
> mh, just made a 'minimal' example and it looks like this bug is not related
> to png transparency. this wasn't visible in my real world example (only
> transparent areas of the png were affected).
> looks more like a mess of layer priorities to me (just guessing).
>
> context example attached (inclusion.tex is the main file, testpdf.tex is the
> source for the included pdf).
>
> so before i file a bug report, can someone confirm this? i used pdftex
> 1.40.9-rc1 for this test.

I don't see any difference with the latest pdftex and with the one
provided in TeX Live 2007. But I do see a difference when adding
   \setupcolors[state=start]
to testpdf.tex. In that case it works, though I have no idea what "no
color enabled" means to ConTeXt - it usually uses black for just about
anything except white. I would not wonder if ConTeXt "forgot" to fill
the background with white, but it's hard to tell.

Mojca
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Re: Latest beta + LuaTeX

[Peter Rolf]

Mojca Miklavec schrieb:
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Peter Rolf wrote:
>> Martin Schröder schrieb:
>>> 2008/7/16 Peter Rolf <indiego@gmx.net>:
>>>> the results (don't continue to read if you want a happy end):
>>>>
>>>> pdftex 1.40.3 produces a pdf, that shows no side effects when it's
>>>> included by the same version of pdftex (1.40.3).
>>>> if i include that pdf with the current 1.40.9-rc1 i get the wrong color
>>>> in the transparent area.
>>>> mh, who to blame? the producer or the collector?
>>> Both. :-{
>>>
>>> Please open a bug for pdftex at sarovar and be sure to include all
>>> relevant files, please.
>>>
>> mh, just made a 'minimal' example and it looks like this bug is not related
>> to png transparency. this wasn't visible in my real world example (only
>> transparent areas of the png were affected).
>> looks more like a mess of layer priorities to me (just guessing).
>>
>> context example attached (inclusion.tex is the main file, testpdf.tex is the
>> source for the included pdf).
>>
>> so before i file a bug report, can someone confirm this? i used pdftex
>> 1.40.9-rc1 for this test.
> 
> I don't see any difference with the latest pdftex and with the one
> provided in TeX Live 2007. But I do see a difference when adding
>    \setupcolors[state=start]
> to testpdf.tex. In that case it works, though I have no idea what "no
> color enabled" means to ConTeXt - it usually uses black for just about
> anything except white. I would not wonder if ConTeXt "forgot" to fill
> the background with white, but it's hard to tell.
>
:)

you are right. i should have better used a color (green was on my mind)
instead of white.

and yes, context "forgot" to fill the background with white.
so now we have a context cavity but no minimal example any more.
unsatisfying.

anyway, thanks mojca for testing.

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