* \*interaction* commands
@ 2008-07-29 13:28 Alan Stone
2008-07-29 15:29 ` Taco Hoekwater
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HI,
Where can I find a *comprehensive* explanation of all
\*interaction* commands and their options ?
Thanks,
Alan
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* Re: \*interaction* commands
2008-07-29 13:28 \*interaction* commands Alan Stone
@ 2008-07-29 15:29 ` Taco Hoekwater
2008-07-29 15:49 ` Alan Stone
2008-07-29 17:52 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2008-07-29 15:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Alan Stone wrote:
> HI,
>
> Where can I find a *comprehensive* explanation of all
> \*interaction* commands and their options ?
AFAIK, the best bet at the moment is texshow:
http://texshow.contextgarden.net/
and put "interaction" in the search field.
Best wishes,
Taco
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* Re: \*interaction* commands
2008-07-29 15:29 ` Taco Hoekwater
@ 2008-07-29 15:49 ` Alan Stone
2008-07-29 17:52 ` Hans Hagen
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Thanks Taco.
Having done that already, that's precisely the reason I'm asking. ;O)
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole>Best,
Alan
P.S. The more I lookup something in texshow, the more it looks like this...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 5:29 PM, Taco Hoekwater <taco@elvenkind.com> wrote:
>
>
> Alan Stone wrote:
> > HI,
> >
> > Where can I find a *comprehensive* explanation of all
> > \*interaction* commands and their options ?
>
> AFAIK, the best bet at the moment is texshow:
>
> http://texshow.contextgarden.net/
>
> and put "interaction" in the search field.
>
> Best wishes,
> Taco
>
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* Re: \*interaction* commands
2008-07-29 15:29 ` Taco Hoekwater
2008-07-29 15:49 ` Alan Stone
@ 2008-07-29 17:52 ` Hans Hagen
2008-07-29 18:28 ` Alan Stone
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2008-07-29 17:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>
> Alan Stone wrote:
>> HI,
>>
>> Where can I find a *comprehensive* explanation of all
>> \*interaction* commands and their options ?
>
> AFAIK, the best bet at the moment is texshow:
>
> http://texshow.contextgarden.net/
>
> and put "interaction" in the search field.
depends a bit on what you want to do ...
mwidgets.pdf is ok, and also the s-pre-* files have lots of examples
Hans
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* Re: \*interaction* commands
2008-07-29 17:52 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2008-07-29 18:28 ` Alan Stone
2008-07-29 20:15 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Alan Stone @ 2008-07-29 18:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
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I'm still trying to reproduce the layo-05.tex example Hans. As its code
is rather tortuous I studied other examples. Up till now this has been
quite a time investment without noticeable return, partly due to not
finding a comprehensive \*interaction* commands documentation to
guide me all along.
Therefore, I wanted to give it (and ConTeXt) one last chance by starting
from scratch and progress by trial and error.
Hence my previous question.
Alan
P.S. What I meant by texshow being a black hole is: there's a lot of stuff
in there, but for the most part (as a user) I don't have a clue what it is
and
what it means.
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> >
> > Alan Stone wrote:
> >> HI,
> >>
> >> Where can I find a *comprehensive* explanation of all
> >> \*interaction* commands and their options ?
> >
> > AFAIK, the best bet at the moment is texshow:
> >
> > http://texshow.contextgarden.net/
> >
> > and put "interaction" in the search field.
>
> depends a bit on what you want to do ...
>
> mwidgets.pdf is ok, and also the s-pre-* files have lots of examples
>
> Hans
>
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* Re: \*interaction* commands
2008-07-29 18:28 ` Alan Stone
@ 2008-07-29 20:15 ` Hans Hagen
2008-07-30 7:55 ` Alan Stone
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2008-07-29 20:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Alan Stone wrote:
> I'm still trying to reproduce the layo-05.tex example Hans. As its code
> is rather tortuous I studied other examples. Up till now this has been
> quite a time investment without noticeable return, partly due to not
> finding a comprehensive \*interaction* commands documentation to
> guide me all along.
the problem with interaction is that there is not one route ... the
simplest way is to just turn it on (\setupinteraction[state=start])
next there are only a few special interaction things: goto, buttons and
menus and it really depends on your design then what you use
the other thingies (graphics and such) ar enot special to interaction
you can run layo-05.tex with --mode=demo to get a simple example, given
at the bottom of that file
an option is to copy that file into a temp one and start commenting ...
that way you see what happens; normally a style is built the other way
around,
- set up a papersize
- adapt the layout
- start keying some text
- then see what kind of text you have
- adapt your design to the content
now, esp with things like menus, finetuning really depends on the kind
of content; the best way to get a feeling for that is just try things
(at least that's how i do it ... just try what looks best as there is no
recipy for a design)
Hans
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* Re: \*interaction* commands
2008-07-29 20:15 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2008-07-30 7:55 ` Alan Stone
2008-07-30 8:07 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Alan Stone @ 2008-07-30 7:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
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>you can run layo-05.tex with --mode=demo to get a simple example, given
>at the bottom of that file
I guess you mean s-pre-05.tex Hans.
Best,
Alan
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 10:15 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> Alan Stone wrote:
> > I'm still trying to reproduce the layo-05.tex example Hans. As its code
> > is rather tortuous I studied other examples. Up till now this has been
> > quite a time investment without noticeable return, partly due to not
> > finding a comprehensive \*interaction* commands documentation to
> > guide me all along.
>
> the problem with interaction is that there is not one route ... the
> simplest way is to just turn it on (\setupinteraction[state=start])
>
> next there are only a few special interaction things: goto, buttons and
> menus and it really depends on your design then what you use
>
> the other thingies (graphics and such) ar enot special to interaction
>
> you can run layo-05.tex with --mode=demo to get a simple example, given
> at the bottom of that file
>
> an option is to copy that file into a temp one and start commenting ...
> that way you see what happens; normally a style is built the other way
> around,
>
> - set up a papersize
> - adapt the layout
> - start keying some text
> - then see what kind of text you have
> - adapt your design to the content
>
> now, esp with things like menus, finetuning really depends on the kind
> of content; the best way to get a feeling for that is just try things
> (at least that's how i do it ... just try what looks best as there is no
> recipy for a design)
>
> Hans
>
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* Re: \*interaction* commands
2008-07-30 7:55 ` Alan Stone
@ 2008-07-30 8:07 ` Hans Hagen
2008-07-30 15:50 ` Alan Stone
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Alan Stone wrote:
>> you can run layo-05.tex with --mode=demo to get a simple example, given
>> at the bottom of that file
>
> I guess you mean s-pre-05.tex Hans.
indeed
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* Re: \*interaction* commands
2008-07-30 8:07 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2008-07-30 15:50 ` Alan Stone
2008-07-30 16:18 ` Hans Hagen
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After modifying the s-pre-05.tex example and replacing
\setupinteractionmenu[right] with \defineinteractionmenu[myMenu][right]
the menu doesn't show up anymmore in the pdf.
What's missing ?
Thanks,
Alan
%\usemodule[pre-general]
\setuppapersize[S6][S6]
\setupbodyfont[14.4pt]
\setuplayout
[width=430pt,
height=400pt,
header=0pt,
footer=0pt,
margin=0pt,
backspace=25pt,
topspace=25pt,
rightedgedistance=20pt,
rightedge=110pt]
\setupcolors[state=start]
%\setupinteractionscreen[option=max]
%\setupbackgrounds[state=repeat]
%\setupbackgrounds[page]
% [backgroundcolor=white]
\setupinteraction[
state=start,
menu=on]
% page=yes/no % what is that ?
\defineinteractionmenu[myMenu][right][
before=,
after=,
style=smallbold,
height=35pt,
offset=10pt,
frame=on]
%\startinteractionmenu[right]
\startinteractionmenu[myMenu]
\placelist[chapter][
criterium=all,
alternative=right, % what is "right" ?
maxwidth=.8\rightedgewidth,
% interaction=all, % what is this supposed to be for ?
before=,
after=]
\vfill
% \setupinteractionmenu[right]
\setupinteractionmenu[myMenu]
[height=30pt]
\but [CloseDocument] Close \\
\stopinteractionmenu
\setupwhitespace[big]
\setupblank[big]
%\defineoverlay[NextPage][\overlaybutton{forward}]
\def\StartTitlePage%
{
\setupbackgrounds[text][text][background=]
% \setupinteraction[menu=off]
\setupinteraction[menu=on]
% \setupinteractionbar[state=stop]
\setupinteractionbar[state=start]
\setuplayout[width=550pt,rightedge=0pt]
\startstandardmakeup
\switchtobodyfont[24pt]
\bfd\setupinterlinespace
\setupalign[middle]
\vfil
\let\\=\vfil}
\def\StopTitlePage%
{\vfil\vfil\vfil
\stopstandardmakeup
\setuplayout[width=430pt,rightedge=110pt]
\setupinteraction[menu=on]
\setupinteractionbar[state=start]
}
\def\TitlePage#1%
{\StartTitlePage#1\StopTitlePage}
\setuphead
[chapter, title]
[after={\blank[3*medium]},
number=no,
style=\tfb,
page=yes,
alternative=middle]
\setuphead
[section]
[after=\blank,
number=no,
page=yes,
continue=no,
style=\tfa]
\starttext
\TitlePage{Title Page}
Some Nice Quotes
\chapter{A Few}
\section{Knuth} \input knuth
\section{Tufte} \input tufte
\chapter{Some More}
\section{Zapf} \input zapf
\section{Bryson} \input bryson
\stoptext
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* Re: \*interaction* commands
2008-07-30 15:50 ` Alan Stone
@ 2008-07-30 16:18 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2008-07-30 16:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Alan Stone wrote:
> After modifying the s-pre-05.tex example and replacing
> \setupinteractionmenu[right] with \defineinteractionmenu[myMenu][right]
> the menu doesn't show up anymmore in the pdf.
(showing all combinations in a maniual would probably explode that manual)
- use \showframe when testing this, it helps to see where things go
- use \setuppapersizep[S6][S8] so that you can see what happens outside
the page
- now, in order to see the menu ...
\setupinteractionmenu
[myMenu]
[state=start]
so, you can toggle them on and off, which is handy if you want another
menu on some pages
- in order to get them overlayed ...
\setupinteractionmenu
[right]
[distance=overlay]
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