From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/44010 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Rolf Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: overprint and currentcolorname in mkiv Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:21:49 +0200 Message-ID: <48CE535D.3070609@gmx.net> References: <48CA9431.2000105@gmx.net> <48CAA445.4080409@wxs.nl> <48CD1126.1030500@gmx.net> <48CE0FD3.2040507@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1221481417 15010 80.91.229.12 (15 Sep 2008 12:23:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:23:37 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Sep 15 14:24:32 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KfD7s-0002hO-CZ for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:24:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC281FEB7; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:23:17 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 23754-02-14; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:22:26 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A4031FE7F; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:22:26 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C2B1FE7F for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:22:25 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 19802-04-12 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:21:50 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id EBBBC1FCAA for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:21:49 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 15 Sep 2008 12:21:49 -0000 Original-Received: from i5387C7BC.versanet.de (EHLO [192.168.1.3]) [83.135.199.188] by mail.gmx.net (mp002) with SMTP; 15 Sep 2008 14:21:49 +0200 X-Authenticated: #24293357 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+G8uVCoGSG2uwXSvkVQt9GftQfpbwWCuwWC0RgmN m6lJrCLn6+WuAd User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) In-Reply-To: <48CE0FD3.2040507@wxs.nl> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.57 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:44010 Archived-At: Hans Hagen schrieb: > Peter Rolf wrote: > >> Well, it seems that my formulation was too fuzzy (its out of question >> that overprinting is implemented). Anyhow, its time to test it again. >> This code fails here and at ConTeXt live (online). >> >> >> \setupcolors[state=start] >> >> \starttext >> >> No overprinting. >> >> \startoverprint >> Overprinting is active. >> \stopoverprint >> >> \stoptext > > run ok here, but the question is .. what exactly do you expect to see > to be exact: some orange text :) Acrobat8 menu 'Advanced'-->'Print Production'-->'Output Preview...' [Output Preview Window] - select 'Color Warnings' entry in the 'Preview' listbox - check the now visible 'Show Overprinting' checkbox Now all overprinting stuff is shown in the selected color (orange). Well, at least should... After comparing the pdftex and the luatex pdf files, I found a difference in the used overprinting modes. pdftex uses the 'Standard Overprinting Mode' (OPM 0) here and luatex the 'Illustrator Overprinting Mode' (OPM 1). This is probably the reason why the overprinting is not shown in orange in the prior described output preview. So its no ConTeXt related problem (overprinting attribute is set), but more a bug or at least missing feature in Acrobat8. I have to read more about the differences between the two modes. What I have found out so far (no guarantee): - 'OPM 0' overprints only on gray and spot colors (which makes it nearly useless for my needs) - 'OPM 1' can overprint on CMYK, but only if the RIP is capable of Postscript Level 3. If any color channel of the overprinting color is at 0%, the overprinting is done channelwise (which means the corresponding channel of the underlying color is visible in case of the 0% channel; so knockout should be used here instead of overprinting) - Also overprinting in general only works if no ICC-profile is attached to the object Sigh, prepress problems. Sorry for the noise! 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