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* What do these LuaTeX errors mean ?
@ 2008-09-17  9:44 Alan Stone
  2008-09-17 10:05 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Alan Stone @ 2008-09-17  9:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
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! LuaTeX error ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:1386:
table index is nil

and

! LuaTeX error ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:1374:
attempt to index local 'glyph' (a nil value)

-- 
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Alan

* ConTeXt ver: 2008.09.10 14:01 MKIV fmt: 2008.9.14 int: english/english
* Windows XP Home SP3

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* Re: What do these LuaTeX errors mean ?
  2008-09-17  9:44 What do these LuaTeX errors mean ? Alan Stone
@ 2008-09-17 10:05 ` Hans Hagen
  2008-09-17 10:32   ` Alan Stone
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Alan Stone wrote:
> ! LuaTeX error ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:1386:
> table index is nil
> 
> and
> 
> ! LuaTeX error ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:1374:
> attempt to index local 'glyph' (a nil value)

what font, and what test file ...


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* Re: What do these LuaTeX errors mean ?
  2008-09-17 10:05 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2008-09-17 10:32   ` Alan Stone
  2008-09-17 10:55     ` Hans Hagen
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From: Alan Stone @ 2008-09-17 10:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
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palatino linotype
! LuaTeX error ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:1386:
table index is nil.

dejavu serif
! LuaTeX error ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:1374:
attempt to index local 'glyph' (a nil value).

Test files in attachment.

texmfstart texexec --lua testfile

-- 
Best,
Alan

* ConTeXt ver: 2008.09.10 14:01 MKIV fmt: 2008.9.14 int: english/english
* Windows XP Home SP3

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

> Alan Stone wrote:
> > ! LuaTeX error
> ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:1386:
> > table index is nil
> >
> > and
> >
> > ! LuaTeX error
> ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:1374:
> > attempt to index local 'glyph' (a nil value)
>
> what font, and what test file ...
>

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* Re: What do these LuaTeX errors mean ?
  2008-09-17 10:32   ` Alan Stone
@ 2008-09-17 10:55     ` Hans Hagen
  2008-09-17 12:15       ` Alan Stone
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2008-09-17 10:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Alan Stone wrote:
> palatino linotype
> ! LuaTeX error ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:1386:
> table index is nil.

what fonts ... i normally use palatino nova which seesm to be ok; the 
old palatinos also run ok

\starttext

\def\TestMe #1 {{\definedfont[file:#1*default]palatino linotype 
\detokenize{#1}\par}}

\TestMe lte50001.ttf
\TestMe lte50002.ttf
\TestMe lte50003.ttf
\TestMe lte50004.ttf
\TestMe lte52168.ttf
\TestMe lte52169.ttf
\TestMe lte52170.ttf
\TestMe lte52171.ttf
\TestMe lte52172.ttf
\TestMe lte52173.ttf
\TestMe pobio___.ttf
\TestMe pobos___.ttf
\TestMe poios___.ttf
\TestMe posc____.ttf

\stoptext

> dejavu serif
> ! LuaTeX error ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:1374:
> attempt to index local 'glyph' (a nil value).

i remember that there was something fishy with those fonts

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* Re: What do these LuaTeX errors mean ?
  2008-09-17 10:55     ` Hans Hagen
@ 2008-09-17 12:15       ` Alan Stone
  2008-09-17 12:49         ` Hans Hagen
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From: Alan Stone @ 2008-09-17 12:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

> Alan Stone wrote:
> > palatino linotype
> > ! LuaTeX error
> ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:1386:
> > table index is nil.
>
> what fonts ... i normally use palatino nova which seesm to be ok;


Where to get this ?


> the
> old palatinos also run ok
>
> \starttext
>
> \def\TestMe #1 {{\definedfont[file:#1*default]palatino linotype
> \detokenize{#1}\par}}
>
> \TestMe lte50001.ttf
> \TestMe lte50002.ttf
> \TestMe lte50003.ttf
> \TestMe lte50004.ttf
> \TestMe lte52168.ttf
> \TestMe lte52169.ttf
> \TestMe lte52170.ttf
> \TestMe lte52171.ttf
> \TestMe lte52172.ttf
> \TestMe lte52173.ttf
> \TestMe pobio___.ttf
> \TestMe pobos___.ttf
> \TestMe poios___.ttf
> \TestMe posc____.ttf
>
> \stoptext


None of these *.ttf are present.

Alan

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* Re: What do these LuaTeX errors mean ?
  2008-09-17 12:15       ` Alan Stone
@ 2008-09-17 12:49         ` Hans Hagen
  2008-09-17 13:31           ` Alan Stone
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2008-09-17 12:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Alan Stone wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> 
>> Alan Stone wrote:
>>> palatino linotype
>>> ! LuaTeX error
>> ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:1386:
>>> table index is nil.
>> what fonts ... i normally use palatino nova which seesm to be ok;
> 
> 
> Where to get this ?

http://www.linotype.com/searchresult?q=palatino

> 
>> the
>> old palatinos also run ok
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> \def\TestMe #1 {{\definedfont[file:#1*default]palatino linotype
>> \detokenize{#1}\par}}
>>
>> \TestMe lte50001.ttf
>> \TestMe lte50002.ttf
>> \TestMe lte50003.ttf
>> \TestMe lte50004.ttf
>> \TestMe lte52168.ttf
>> \TestMe lte52169.ttf
>> \TestMe lte52170.ttf
>> \TestMe lte52171.ttf
>> \TestMe lte52172.ttf
>> \TestMe lte52173.ttf
>> \TestMe pobio___.ttf
>> \TestMe pobos___.ttf
>> \TestMe poios___.ttf
>> \TestMe posc____.ttf
>>
>> \stoptext
> 
> 
> None of these *.ttf are present.

so what files are used then in your case?

Hans

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* Re: What do these LuaTeX errors mean ?
  2008-09-17 12:49         ` Hans Hagen
@ 2008-09-17 13:31           ` Alan Stone
  2008-09-17 13:57             ` Hans Hagen
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On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

> Alan Stone wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> >
> >> Alan Stone wrote:
> >>> palatino linotype
> >>> ! LuaTeX error
> >> ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:1386:
> >>> table index is nil.
> >> what fonts ... i normally use palatino nova which seesm to be ok;
> >
> >
> > Where to get this ?
>
> http://www.linotype.com/searchresult?q=palatino


Thanks Hans.


> >
> >> the
> >> old palatinos also run ok
> >>
> >> \starttext
> >>
> >> \def\TestMe #1 {{\definedfont[file:#1*default]palatino linotype
> >> \detokenize{#1}\par}}
> >>
> >> \TestMe lte50001.ttf
> >> \TestMe lte50002.ttf
> >> \TestMe lte50003.ttf
> >> \TestMe lte50004.ttf
> >> \TestMe lte52168.ttf
> >> \TestMe lte52169.ttf
> >> \TestMe lte52170.ttf
> >> \TestMe lte52171.ttf
> >> \TestMe lte52172.ttf
> >> \TestMe lte52173.ttf
> >> \TestMe pobio___.ttf
> >> \TestMe pobos___.ttf
> >> \TestMe poios___.ttf
> >> \TestMe posc____.ttf
> >>
> >> \stoptext
> >
> >
> > None of these *.ttf are present.
>
> so what files are used then in your case?


It doesn't compile. See attachment.


> --
> Best,
> Alan
>
> * ConTeXt ver: 2008.09.10 14:01 MKIV fmt: 2008.9.14 int: english/english
> * Windows XP Home SP3
>

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texmfstart texexec --lua test_plt-old
texmfstart texexec --lua test_plt-old
Process started >>>
TeXExec | processing document 'test_plt-old'
TeXExec | no ctx file found
TeXExec | tex processing method: context
TeXExec | TeX run 1
TeXExec | writing option file test_plt-old.top
TeXExec | using randomseed 1216
TeXExec | tex engine: luatex
TeXExec | tex format: cont-en
(test_plt-old.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2008.09.10 14:01 MKIV  fmt: 2008.9.17  int: english/english

language       : language en is active
system         : cont-new loaded
(C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex
systems         : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex
(C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-new.mkiv
lua            : used config path - C:/context/tex/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf
lua            : used cache path - C:/context/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/2fea56f92e5267d7cc9662e4d5f52e1e
) (C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-mtx.tex))
system         : cont-old loaded
(C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex
loading        : Context Old Macros
)
system         : cont-fil loaded
(C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex
loading        : Context File Synonyms
)
system         : cont-sys loaded
(C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/user/cont-sys.tex (C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-tmf.tex) (C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex) (C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-otf.tex))
bodyfont       : 12pt rm is loaded
specials       : tex loaded
system         : test_plt-old.top loaded
(test_plt-old.top
specials       : loading definition file tpd
(C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/spec-tpd.tex
specials       : loading definition file fdf
(C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.tex (C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.mkiv))
specials       : fdf loaded
(C:/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/spec-tpd.mkiv))
specials       : fdf loaded
) (test_plt-old.tuo) (test_plt-old.tuo)
systems        : begin file test_plt-old at line 1
define font | forced type ttf of lte50001 not found
define font | font with name lte50001 is not found
define font | unknown font lte50001, loading aborted
! Font \**\thedefinedfont**:=file:lte50001.ttf*features=default, at 12pt not loadable: metric data not found or bad.
<to be read again> 
                   \relax 
\definefontlocal ...ndcsname \lastfontname \relax 
                                                  \expandafter \let \expanda...
\dododefinefont ...ontspec {#2}\rawfontidentifier 
                                                  \let \localrelativefontsiz...
\redodefinefont #1#2#3->\dododefinefont {#1}{#2}
                                                \doifsetupselse {#3} {\setup...
\dodefinedfont ...ring \thedefinedfont \endcsname 
                                                  \the \everydefinedfont 
\TestMe #1 ->{\definedfont [file:#1*default]
                                            palatino linotype \detokenize {#...
l.6 \TestMe lte50001.ttf
                        
? 

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* Re: What do these LuaTeX errors mean ?
  2008-09-17 13:31           ` Alan Stone
@ 2008-09-17 13:57             ` Hans Hagen
  2008-09-17 14:12               ` Alan Stone
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2008-09-17 13:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Alan Stone wrote:

> 
> It doesn't compile. See attachment.

so you don't have those fonts; and i have no clue what palatino fonts 
you have then (i have both the traditional palatino and the nova 
collection)

Hans

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* Re: What do these LuaTeX errors mean ?
  2008-09-17 13:57             ` Hans Hagen
@ 2008-09-17 14:12               ` Alan Stone
  2008-09-17 14:19                 ` Hans Hagen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Alan Stone @ 2008-09-17 14:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

> Alan Stone wrote:
>
> >
> > It doesn't compile. See attachment.
>
> so you don't have those fonts; and i have no clue what palatino fonts
> you have then (i have both the traditional palatino and the nova
> collection)
>
> Hans
>

Is the traditional palatino supposed to be present in the context minimal
installation?


>  --
> Best,
> Alan
>
> * ConTeXt ver: 2008.09.10 14:01 MKIV fmt: 2008.9.14 int: english/english
> * Windows XP Home SP3
>

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* Re: What do these LuaTeX errors mean ?
  2008-09-17 14:12               ` Alan Stone
@ 2008-09-17 14:19                 ` Hans Hagen
  2008-09-17 14:31                   ` Aditya Mahajan
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2008-09-17 14:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Alan Stone wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> 
>> Alan Stone wrote:
>>
>>> It doesn't compile. See attachment.
>> so you don't have those fonts; and i have no clue what palatino fonts
>> you have then (i have both the traditional palatino and the nova
>> collection)
>>
>> Hans
>>
> 
> Is the traditional palatino supposed to be present in the context minimal
> installation?

no, it's commercial, there is only the palladio in tex distributions

Hans


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* Re: What do these LuaTeX errors mean ?
  2008-09-17 14:19                 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2008-09-17 14:31                   ` Aditya Mahajan
  2008-09-17 15:27                     ` Hans Hagen
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From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2008-09-17 14:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Wed, 17 Sep 2008, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Alan Stone wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
>>
>>> Alan Stone wrote:
>>>
>>>> It doesn't compile. See attachment.
>>> so you don't have those fonts; and i have no clue what palatino fonts
>>> you have then (i have both the traditional palatino and the nova
>>> collection)
>>>
>>> Hans
>>>
>>
>> Is the traditional palatino supposed to be present in the context minimal
>> installation?
>
> no, it's commercial, there is only the palladio in tex distributions

Slightly off topic, but what math fonts do you use with Palatino. I am 
using TeX Gyre Pagella and pxfonts, but the pxfonts have started to look 
ugly. The other free option, mathpazo, only contains greek, and all the 
symbols are borrowed from CM. So, I am thinking of using a commericial 
math font, and PA Math from micropress seems to be the only option. But it 
is expensive at $155. Are there other math fonts that I could use with 
Palatino (Euler is not an option since it looks too informal).

Aditya
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* Re: What do these LuaTeX errors mean ?
  2008-09-17 14:31                   ` Aditya Mahajan
@ 2008-09-17 15:27                     ` Hans Hagen
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Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008, Hans Hagen wrote:
> 
>> Alan Stone wrote:
>>> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alan Stone wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It doesn't compile. See attachment.
>>>> so you don't have those fonts; and i have no clue what palatino fonts
>>>> you have then (i have both the traditional palatino and the nova
>>>> collection)
>>>>
>>>> Hans
>>>>
>>> Is the traditional palatino supposed to be present in the context minimal
>>> installation?
>> no, it's commercial, there is only the palladio in tex distributions
> 
> Slightly off topic, but what math fonts do you use with Palatino. I am 
> using TeX Gyre Pagella and pxfonts, but the pxfonts have started to look 
> ugly. The other free option, mathpazo, only contains greek, and all the 
> symbols are borrowed from CM. So, I am thinking of using a commericial 
> math font, and PA Math from micropress seems to be the only option. But it 
> is expensive at $155. Are there other math fonts that I could use with 
> Palatino (Euler is not an option since it looks too informal).

wait till tex gyre math shows up .. i wouldn't invest in a type1 font 
any more

Hans


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