Fun with Bibtex

Fun with Bibtex

[Peter Daum]

Hi all

I'm using Taco's Bibtex module and got some problems with it.

\setupbibtex[database=xxxxxx,sort=author]
\setuppublications[alternative=apa-de,refcommand=authoryear,monthconversion=month]
\placepublications[criterium=all]

... works fine. The references list contains only publications referenced in the document.

Unfortunately, I was forced to use a special bst file, since I needed to change the fields of the entrytype "misc". As I didn't find a way to make ConTeXt or texexec aware of this new file living in my document's directory, I deleted the database parameter, customised the aux file and ran bibtex by myself.

The problem is, that, with the new method, only a very small subset of the referenced publication makes it into the list. If I add "criterium=all" to the setuppublications command, I get the whole database, whether the pub is referenced or not.

Any ideas?

Thanks and regards
Peter


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Re: Fun with Bibtex

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 11:01 PM, Peter Daum wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I'm using Taco's Bibtex module and got some problems with it.
>
> \setupbibtex[database=xxxxxx,sort=author]
> \setuppublications[alternative=apa-de,refcommand=authoryear,monthconversion=month]
> \placepublications[criterium=all]
>
> ... works fine. The references list contains only publications referenced in the document.
>
> Unfortunately, I was forced to use a special bst file, since I needed to change the fields of the entrytype "misc".

I cannot say anything about the specific problem you had, but are you
sure that the high level interface of bib module does not allow you to
do what you need without touching bst files?

If you are playing with bst files you probably know what you are
doing, but maybe you can provide a bit more details. Not everything
can be done with high lever interface, but so far I never had to touch
bst, yet I keep configuring lots of things.

(OTOH ... I just figured out today that comments are not ignored in
bib entries [any more], so I get percentage signs and unuseful text
all over the place ... I really need to switch back to Word ASAP.)

Mojca
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Re: Fun with Bibtex

[Matthias Wächter]

On 9/24/2008 11:01 PM, Peter Daum wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> I'm using Taco's Bibtex module and got some problems with it.
> 
> \setupbibtex[database=xxxxxx,sort=author]
> \setuppublications[alternative=apa-de,refcommand=authoryear,monthconversion=month]
> \placepublications[criterium=all]
> 
> ... works fine. The references list contains only publications referenced in the document.
> 
> Unfortunately, I was forced to use a special bst file, since I needed to change the fields of the entrytype "misc". As I didn't find a way to make ConTeXt or texexec aware of this new file living in my document's directory, I deleted the database parameter, customised the aux file and ran bibtex by myself.
> 
> The problem is, that, with the new method, only a very small subset of the referenced publication makes it into the list. If I add "criterium=all" to the setuppublications command, I get the whole database, whether the pub is referenced or not.
> 
> Any ideas?

After reading t-bib.tex:

[…]
\def\setupbibtex{\dosingleempty\dosetupbibtex}

\def\dosetupbibtex[#1]%
  {\let\@@pbdatabase\empty
   \let\@@pbsort    \empty
   \getparameters[\??pb][#1]%
   \expanded{\processaction[\@@pbsort]}
        [      \v!no=>\def\bibstyle{cont-no},
           \v!author=>\def\bibstyle{cont-au},
            \v!title=>\def\bibstyle{cont-ti},
            \v!short=>\def\bibstyle{cont-ab},
          \s!default=>\def\bibstyle{cont-no},
          \s!unknown=>\def\bibstyle{cont-no}]%
   \ifx\@@pbdatabase\empty\else \writeauxfile \fi}

[…]

I would suggest you put your .bst into, say, cont-my.bst and issue
the command

\def\bibstyle{cont-my}

right after executing \setupbibtex

- Matthias
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Re: Fun with Bibtex

[Taco Hoekwater]

Matthias Wächter wrote:
> 
> I would suggest you put your .bst into, say, cont-my.bst and issue
> the command

> \def\bibstyle{cont-my}
> 
> right after executing \setupbibtex

That won't work, the .aux file is written by \writeauxfile.
But you could replace the whole \setupbibtex command with this:

   \unprotect
   \def\@@pbdatabase{..your bib file ..}
   \def\bibstyle{cont-my}
   \writeauxfile
   \protect

To the original poster: I have no way of knowing what goes wrong.
You're basically saying:

   "I altered stuff but now it doesn't work anymore!"

Well, there is nothing I can do about that.

Best wishes,
Taco



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Re: Fun with Bibtex

[Matthias Wächter]

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On 9/25/2008 10:07 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> 
> Matthias Wächter wrote:
>> I would suggest you put your .bst into, say, cont-my.bst and issue
>> the command
> 
>> \def\bibstyle{cont-my}
>>
>> right after executing \setupbibtex
> 
> That won't work, the .aux file is written by \writeauxfile.

For whatever reason, the .aux file contained \bibstyle{cont-my} in
my tests …

> But you could replace the whole \setupbibtex command with this:
> 
>    \unprotect
>    \def\@@pbdatabase{..your bib file ..}
>    \def\bibstyle{cont-my}
>    \writeauxfile
>    \protect

right. So the attached would be an appropriate long-term patch then?

- Matthias

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--- texmf-context/doc/context/bib/bibmod-doc.tex.orig	2006-09-15 11:52:34.000000000 +0200
+++ texmf-context/doc/context/bib/bibmod-doc.tex	2008-09-25 11:33:30.828125000 +0200
@@ -353,6 +353,7 @@
      `author' (\type{cont-au.bst}) sorts alphabetically on author and within that on year,
      `title' (\type{cont-ti.bst}) sorts alphabetically on title and then on author and
      year, and `short' (\type{cont-ab.bst}) sorts on the short key that is generated
+     by \BIBTEX. If \type{FILE} is given, it specifies an individual \type{.bst} file name used
      by \BIBTEX.\NC\NR 
 \stoptabulate
 
--- texmf-context/tex/context/bib/t-bib.tex.orig	2008-04-17 17:02:02.000000000 +0200
+++ texmf-context/tex/context/bib/t-bib.tex	2008-09-25 11:15:01.734375000 +0200
@@ -300,15 +300,14 @@
 
 \def\dosetupbibtex[#1]%
   {\let\@@pbdatabase\empty
-   \let\@@pbsort    \empty
-   \getparameters[\??pb][#1]%
+   \getparameters[\??pb][sort=\s!default,#1]%
    \expanded{\processaction[\@@pbsort]}
         [      \v!no=>\def\bibstyle{cont-no},
            \v!author=>\def\bibstyle{cont-au},
             \v!title=>\def\bibstyle{cont-ti},
             \v!short=>\def\bibstyle{cont-ab},
           \s!default=>\def\bibstyle{cont-no},
-          \s!unknown=>\def\bibstyle{cont-no}]%
+          \s!unknown=>\def\bibstyle{\@@pbsort}]%
    \ifx\@@pbdatabase\empty\else \writeauxfile \fi}
 
 \dosetupbibtex[bibtex=bibtex]
--- texmf-context/tex/context/interface/t-bib.xml.orig	2006-09-15 11:52:06.000000000 +0200
+++ texmf-context/tex/context/interface/t-bib.xml	2008-09-25 11:27:16.953125000 +0200
@@ -266,6 +266,7 @@
         <cd:constant type="author"/>
         <cd:constant type="short"/>
         <cd:constant type="no" default="yes"/>
+        <cd:constant type="cd:file"/>
       </cd:parameter>
     </cd:assignments>
   </cd:arguments>

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Re: Fun with Bibtex

[Taco Hoekwater]

Matthias Wächter wrote:
> On 9/25/2008 10:07 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>> Matthias Wächter wrote:
>>> I would suggest you put your .bst into, say, cont-my.bst and issue
>>> the command
>>> \def\bibstyle{cont-my}
>>>
>>> right after executing \setupbibtex
>> That won't work, the .aux file is written by \writeauxfile.
> 
> For whatever reason, the .aux file contained \bibstyle{cont-my} in
> my tests …
> 
>> But you could replace the whole \setupbibtex command with this:
>>
>>    \unprotect
>>    \def\@@pbdatabase{..your bib file ..}
>>    \def\bibstyle{cont-my}
>>    \writeauxfile
>>    \protect
> 
> right. So the attached would be an appropriate long-term patch then?

Yes. I'll apply that, thanks

Best wishes,
Taco
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