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* latest beta (again)
@ 2008-10-09  8:55 Thomas A. Schmitz
  2008-10-09  9:22 ` Hans Hagen
  2008-10-09 10:26 ` Hans Hagen
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2008-10-09  8:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hans,

I still have some problems with my fonts in the latest beta. Maybe it  
has to do with the latest optimizations. I'm just wondering: in my  
Greek typescripts, I define several fontfeatures and connect them with  
featurefiles, like so (just an example, the list is longer):

\installfontfeature[otf][gent]
\installfontfeature[otf][kori]

\definefontfeature
   [korinthia]
    
[mode 
= 
node 
,language 
= 
dflt 
,script 
=latn,kern=yes,tlig=no,trep=no,kori=yes,featurefile=korinthia.fea]

\definefontfeature
   [gentiumgreek]
    [mode=node,language=dflt,script=latn,kern=yes,tlig=no,trep=no,
     gent=yes,featurefile=gentium.fea]

\starttypescript [serif] [GreekGentiumAlt] [name]
   \definefontsynonym [Serif]           [name:GenAR102]  
[features=gentiumgreek]
   \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic]     [name:GenAI102]  
[features=gentiumgreek]
   \definefontsynonym [SerifBold]       [Serif]
   \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [SerifItalic]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [serif] [GreekKorinthia] [name]
   \definefontsynonym [Serif]           [name:Korinthia]   
[features=korinthia]
   \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic]     [Serif]
   \definefontsynonym [SerifBold]       [Serif]
   \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [Serif]
\stoptypescript

The main font definition is of this form:

\starttypescript[greek]
\definetypeface[greek][rm][serif][\currentmoduleparameter{font}] 
[default][rscale=\currentmoduleparameter{scale}]
\stoptypescript
\usetypescript[greek]

So I'm just wondering: must the "features=" be included into the  
\definetypeface as well? I have the impression that the different  
features I define are not used at all...

Thomas

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* Re: latest beta (again)
  2008-10-09  8:55 latest beta (again) Thomas A. Schmitz
@ 2008-10-09  9:22 ` Hans Hagen
  2008-10-09  9:47   ` Thomas A. Schmitz
  2008-10-09 10:26 ` Hans Hagen
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2008-10-09  9:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> Hans,
> 
> I still have some problems with my fonts in the latest beta. Maybe it  
> has to do with the latest optimizations. I'm just wondering: in my  
> Greek typescripts, I define several fontfeatures and connect them with  
> featurefiles, like so (just an example, the list is longer):

hard to test without test files and fonts -)

you can try

\ctxlua{fonts.trace=true}

and see what is handled


% test file
%
% \starttypescript[serif][mine-1]
%     \definefontsynonym[Serif]                 [TeXGyrePagella-Regular]
% 
\definefontsynonym[TeXGyrePagella-Regular][file:texgyrepagella-regular]
% \stoptypescript
%
% \starttypescript[serif][mine-2]
%     \definefontsynonym[Serif]                 [TeXGyrePagella-Regular] 
      [features=default]
% 
\definefontsynonym[TeXGyrePagella-Regular][file:texgyrepagella-regular] 
[features=oldstyle]
% \stoptypescript
%
% \starttypescript[serif][mine-3]
%     \definefontsynonym[Serif]                 [TeXGyrePagella-Regular] 
      [features=oldstyle]
% 
\definefontsynonym[TeXGyrePagella-Regular][file:texgyrepagella-regular] 
[features=default]
% \stoptypescript
%
% \starttypescript[serif][mine-4]
%     \definefontsynonym[Serif]                 [TeXGyrePagella-Regular] 
      [features=default]
% 
\definefontsynonym[TeXGyrePagella-Regular][file:texgyrepagella-regular] 
[features=default]
% \stoptypescript
%
% \starttypescript[serif][mine-5]
%     \definefontsynonym[Serif]                 [TeXGyrePagella-Regular] 
      [features=oldstyle]
% 
\definefontsynonym[TeXGyrePagella-Regular][file:texgyrepagella-regular] 
[features=oldstyle]
% \stoptypescript
%
% \starttext
%     \dorecurse {5} {
% 
\expanded{\definetypeface[mine-\recurselevel][rm][serif][mine-\recurselevel][default]}
%         \expanded{\setupbodyfont [mine-\recurselevel] 
mine-\recurselevel: text 1234567890 done}
%         \par
%     }
%     \blank
%     \dorecurse {5} {
% 
\expanded{\definetypeface[more-\recurselevel][rm][serif][mine-\recurselevel][default][features=oldstyle]}
%         \expanded{\setupbodyfont [more-\recurselevel] 
mine-\recurselevel: text 1234567890 done}
%         \par
%     }
% \stoptext


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* Re: latest beta (again)
  2008-10-09  9:22 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2008-10-09  9:47   ` Thomas A. Schmitz
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2008-10-09  9:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Oct 9, 2008, at 11:22 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:

> hard to test without test files and fonts -)
>

Yes, I can see that :-) Your crystal ball is broken, then?

> you can try
>
> \ctxlua{fonts.trace=true}
>
> and see what is handled

Well, that kind of confirms my suspicion. I attach the relevant stuff  
from the log file. Basically, ConTeXT registers Korinthia with the  
feature gentiumgreek (instead of feature korinthia). I'll see if I can  
narrow it down to a more manageable test file and send it to you.

Thanks

Thomas

define font | registering Korinthia as otf
define font | using real font with id ?, n:/Users/tas/texmf/fonts/ 
opentype/greek/korinthia/Korinthia.otf s:865080 b:2 e:unicode  
p:Korinthia f:Korinthia.otf
define font | loading at 2 id 38, hash: Korinthia @ analyze=true 
+featurefile=gentium.fea+gent=true+kern=true+language=dflt+mode=node 
+script=latn @ 865080
define font | defining Korinthia with id 38 as \*greek12ptrmtfrm*  
(,gentiumgreek,)
define font | memory usage after: 51 MB (ctx: 52 MB)
define font | Serif sa 1 -> lookup: [file], name: Serif, sub: -,  
method: -, detail: -
define font | memory usage before: 51 MB (ctx: 52 MB)
define font | registering Korinthia as otf
define font | using real font with id ?, n:/Users/tas/texmf/fonts/ 
opentype/greek/korinthia/Korinthia.otf s:504630 b:2 e:unicode  
p:Korinthia f:Korinthia.otf
define font | loading at 2 id 39, hash: Korinthia @ analyze=true 
+featurefile=gentium.fea+gent=true+kern=true+language=dflt+mode=node 
+script=latn @ 504630
define font | defining Korinthia with id 39 as \*greek7ptrmtfrm*  
(,gentiumgreek,)
define font | memory usage after: 51 MB (ctx: 52 MB)
define font | Serif sa 1 -> lookup: [file], name: Serif, sub: -,  
method: -, detail: -
define font | memory usage before: 51 MB (ctx: 52 MB)
define font | registering Korinthia as otf
define font | using real font with id ?, n:/Users/tas/texmf/fonts/ 
opentype/greek/korinthia/Korinthia.otf s:648810 b:2 e:unicode  
p:Korinthia f:Korinthia.otf
define font | loading at 2 id 40, hash: Korinthia @ analyze=true 
+featurefile=gentium.fea+gent=true+kern=true+language=dflt+mode=node 
+script=latn @ 648810
define font | defining Korinthia with id 40 as \*greek9ptrmtfrm*  
(,gentiumgreek,)

and then later

define font | loading at 2 id 45, hash: lmsy9 @ unknown @ 589824
define font | defining lmsy9 with id 45 as \*greek9ptmmsyrm* (,,)
define font | memory usage after: 52 MB (ctx: 53 MB)
define font | cmsy10 at 12pt -> lookup: [file], name: cmsy10, sub: -,  
method: -, detail: -
define font | memory usage before: 52 MB (ctx: 53 MB)
define font | reusing lmsy10 with id 10 as \*greek12ptmmsyrm* (,,)
define font | memory usage after: 52 MB (ctx: 53 MB)
define font | cmex10 at 12pt -> lookup: [file], name: cmex10, sub: -,  
method: -, detail: -
define font | memory usage before: 52 MB (ctx: 53 MB)
define font | reusing lmex10 with id 11 as \*greek12ptmmexrm* (,,)
define font | memory usage after: 52 MB (ctx: 53 MB)
define font | msam7 sa 1 -> lookup: [file], name: msam7, sub: -,  
method: -, detail: -
define font | memory usage before: 52 MB (ctx: 53 MB)
define font | reusing msam7 with id 12 as \*greek7ptmmmarm* (,,)
define font | memory usage after: 52 MB (ctx: 53 MB)
define font | msam10 sa 1 -> lookup: [file], name: msam10, sub: -,  
method: -, detail: -
define font | memory usage before: 52 MB (ctx: 53 MB)
define font | reusing msam10 with id 13 as \*greek9ptmmmarm* (,,)
define font | memory usage after: 52 MB (ctx: 53 MB)
define font | msam10 sa 1 -> lookup: [file], name: msam10, sub: -,  
method: -, detail: -
define font | memory usage before: 52 MB (ctx: 53 MB)
define font | reusing msam10 with id 14 as \*greek12ptmmmarm* (,,)
define font | memory usage after: 52 MB (ctx: 53 MB)
define font | msbm7 sa 1 -> lookup: [file], name: msbm7, sub: -,  
method: -, detail: -
define font | memory usage before: 52 MB (ctx: 53 MB)
define font | reusing msbm7 with id 15 as \*greek7ptmmmbrm* (,,)
define font | memory usage after: 52 MB (ctx: 53 MB)
define font | msbm10 sa 1 -> lookup: [file], name: msbm10, sub: -,  
method: -, detail: -
define font | memory usage before: 52 MB (ctx: 53 MB)
define font | reusing msbm10 with id 16 as \*greek9ptmmmbrm* (,,)
define font | memory usage after: 52 MB (ctx: 53 MB)
define font | msbm10 sa 1 -> lookup: [file], name: msbm10, sub: -,  
method: -, detail: -
define font | memory usage before: 52 MB (ctx: 53 MB)
define font | reusing msbm10 with id 17 as \*greek12ptmmmbrm* (,,)
define font | memory usage after: 52 MB (ctx: 53 MB)
define font | SerifBold sa 1 -> lookup: [file], name: SerifBold, sub:  
-, method: -, detail: -
define font | memory usage before: 52 MB (ctx: 53 MB)
define font | reusing Korinthia with id 39 as \*greek7ptrmbfrm*  
(,gentiumgreek,)
define font | memory usage after: 52 MB (ctx: 53 MB)
define font | SerifBold sa 1 -> lookup: [file], name: SerifBold, sub:  
-, method: -, detail: -
define font | memory usage before: 52 MB (ctx: 53 MB)
define font | reusing Korinthia with id 40 as \*greek9ptrmbfrm*  
(,gentiumgreek,)
define font | memory usage after: 52 MB (ctx: 53 MB)
define font | SerifBold sa 1 -> lookup: [file], name: SerifBold, sub:  
-, method: -, detail: -
define font | memory usage before: 52 MB (ctx: 53 MB)
define font | reusing Korinthia with id 38 as \*greek12ptrmbfrm*  
(,gentiumgreek,)
define font | memory usage after: 52 MB (ctx: 53 MB)

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* Re: latest beta (again)
  2008-10-09  8:55 latest beta (again) Thomas A. Schmitz
  2008-10-09  9:22 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2008-10-09 10:26 ` Hans Hagen
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2008-10-09 10:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users

Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> Hans,
> 
> I still have some problems with my fonts in the latest beta. Maybe it  
> has to do with the latest optimizations. I'm just wondering: in my  
> Greek typescripts, I define several fontfeatures and connect them with  
> featurefiles, like so (just an example, the list is longer):
> 
> \installfontfeature[otf][gent]
> \installfontfeature[otf][kori]
> 
> \definefontfeature
>    [korinthia]
>     
> [mode 
> = 
> node 
> ,language 
> = 
> dflt 
> ,script 
> =latn,kern=yes,tlig=no,trep=no,kori=yes,featurefile=korinthia.fea]
> 
> \definefontfeature
>    [gentiumgreek]
>     [mode=node,language=dflt,script=latn,kern=yes,tlig=no,trep=no,
>      gent=yes,featurefile=gentium.fea]
> 
> \starttypescript [serif] [GreekGentiumAlt] [name]
>    \definefontsynonym [Serif]           [name:GenAR102]  
> [features=gentiumgreek]
>    \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic]     [name:GenAI102]  
> [features=gentiumgreek]
>    \definefontsynonym [SerifBold]       [Serif]
>    \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [SerifItalic]
> \stoptypescript
> 
> \starttypescript [serif] [GreekKorinthia] [name]
>    \definefontsynonym [Serif]           [name:Korinthia]   
> [features=korinthia]
>    \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic]     [Serif]
>    \definefontsynonym [SerifBold]       [Serif]
>    \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [Serif]
> \stoptypescript
> 
> The main font definition is of this form:
> 
> \starttypescript[greek]
> \definetypeface[greek][rm][serif][\currentmoduleparameter{font}] 
> [default][rscale=\currentmoduleparameter{scale}]
> \stoptypescript
> \usetypescript[greek]
> 
> So I'm just wondering: must the "features=" be included into the  
> \definetypeface as well? I have the impression that the different  
> features I define are not used at all...

it binds to Serif i.e. the left part of the definefontsynonym (used to 
be a complex sometimes left/right thing)

but it should work out well because eventually it's bound to greekSerif

an option indeed it to delay it and assign it in the \definetypeface

(or use [name:GenAR102*gentiumgreek])

i'm still not sure what is the best way to implement this abstraction

Hans

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                                              | www.pragma-pod.nl
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